It's irrelevant my good man.LOL. I think if he concludes it is not acceptable behavior and like you said, it's a physical manifestation in how much he thinks about himself he will do better.
Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
It's irrelevant my good man.LOL. I think if he concludes it is not acceptable behavior and like you said, it's a physical manifestation in how much he thinks about himself he will do better.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Sometimes they won't feel the pain but do an even tighter "death spiral" if they are abusing alcohol or weed for example. But yes that pain is very motivating to do something about it.There are two types of motivation.
There is people who a driven by an inner force, a motivation to own the world. They are PURSUING something.
And there is the second type (mine), which can be even stronger but happens sporadically. They are motivated by pain. When pain is unbearable, they will do everything to get AWAY from it. It can be an incredibly strong motivation and life changing.
It's sad, but as everyone said, your brother will need to experience extreme pain to finally find the motivation to get away from it.
We have all been there, that's why the majority of us is here. But this pain can be extremely beneficial if used properly. Just be there for him at that point to show him the light.
Yes, true.Old thread but there is nothing more saddening to see someone close to you who is still plugged in.
Sadly it is often only during trauma that we can unplug the AFCs. It is only in this raw state that they will finally open their eyes.
I don't agree. The dude is your brother- you care for him and want the best for him.The conclusion was that I was being codependent.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Maybe. Or, the whale will continue to cling to his brother like a leech because she knows she can't do better, then they get married and have kids. Game over. But as the OP said, oh well it's his life. Let em f*ck it up. Just try to enjoy the show.fatty will dump him for the next guy that has front row seats to the buffet....
The one consolation is that he is anti-marriage and fvcking hates kids.Maybe. Or, the whale will continue to cling to his brother like a leech because she knows she can't do better, then they get married and have kids. Game over. But as the OP said, oh well it's his life. Let em f*ck it up. Just try to enjoy the show.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
My sentiments exactly compadre..Geez.....poor guy. I wonder if anyone can truly be happy settling. I know that I can't.
Interesting theory.It's true @Lozboss that emotional trauma at the hands of a woman is the only true way to snap out of AFCness
It's how I snapped out of mine
I find that the hardest thing to do is change someone's mind
People 'see the light' and change their ways when they see the way those close to them live their lives
Obviously you've read the opening post and hurriedly jumped to give your premature assessment. This is an old thread and I updated simply to give a conclusion. In fact, the conclusion is more about what I have learned from the situation. Feel free to comment on the conclusion on the thread but I feel it's pointless to further assess the initial opening post when it's been done previously AND concluded.If he chooses mediocrity for himself then that is all he deserves. If he does not strive for something better then he will never get it. You cannot help him, he can only help himself.
I believe I can deduce his problem... He has no self-esteem, he must have lost it over a series of personal cataclysms. Thus, he feels that his own self is worthless and thus he only deserves the undeserving company of that revolting woman. Hmmmm... I wonder if you can enhance his self-esteem, get a few attractive women friends of yours to help you out and hit on him to make him think he is better than that. If he gets positive reinforcement from women it would be evidence to him that he settled. Therefore, he will look at that whale and wonder if he can do better which may be the spark that can ignite a flame. It is not about convincing... Convincing rarely works on people. It is about being subtle, and planting the seed of a notion in his mind, make him wonder if he is better and if he can do better.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Well that's pretty rudeAlso, going by your "advice", either you lack reading comprehension skills or it demonstrates you were all too eager and overexcited to caste your "assessment". It might be worth looking into.
That's your perception.Well that's pretty rude
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.