"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"you're funny"

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In your experience, when women whip out this line within the very first three convos you have with her, is this an IOI or a friendzone move?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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If she says it after 3 conversations it means you're in the friend zone. If she says it after 4, it means she wants to bang.

Dude, who knows what it means. Maybe it means that you're funny. If you like her, you gotta escalate. Stop playing it safe, looking for little meaningless signs. Grab your balls and dive in.
 

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Hahaha. C'mon, someone has gotta have some observations on this. Do girls say to Brad Pitt in the first 3 dates, "you're funny."
 

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meh, worrying about it will only make it worse, but generally speaking you don't want to be labelled as "the funny guy". Being funny is great, but it should not be your main attribute. So maybe ease on the jokes and put on the sexy ;)
 

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Yeah I def don't wanna come off as "the clown." But actually, the girls are saying this in response to negs. It's really weird cus it's not the typical visceral girly reaction of them hitting me on the arm and laughing hysterically.

It's more like, they smirk and analyze me in a very logical way, "you're funny." There's gotta be other guys who have been in my shoes.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I think you ve just qualified for her and are ready to build rapport. At this point it's make it or break it, as she is about to decide in which category you are gonna fall. Just be sexual if you dont want her to be just a friend.
 

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Well, you know, you gotta judge for yourself. Do you get anywhere with the girls who react this way?
 

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Surely you've got to know if she fancies you, right? The only person who knows what she means is her. And you're the only person that knows her - and thus can judge context...so you tell us.

If she's saying "you're funny" to your penis though...this probably isn't a great thing. On the plus side you'll probably still get to do her. On the negative side she might be singing Disney songs whilst you do.
 

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you're funny is a timid way to say i like you
( but just in case, try to regulate the amount of silly jokes you make. It's often really anoying to me guys that jsut keep making jokes and then laugh to it saying ahhhh i'm just messing with ya. It just makes me walk away. Guys that like you but try to making themselve look like they don't care teasing you like a 8yo. So unsexy. Most of the time they are like even 25 and convinced that's the way to make girls fall but It makes me imagine he would do the same during sex and brrrr gives me bad shivers)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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f283000 said:
I knew somebody was going to do it sooner or later :D
Oh yes i love this scene. Actually a couple of guys have answered to me funny how?? and then we acted out the the rest of the scene.

You know, the way you tell the story, you're funny, you're a funny guy!
 

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BBbardot said:
Oh yes i love this scene. Actually a couple of guys have answered to me funny how?? and then we acted out the the rest of the scene.

You know, the way you tell the story, you're funny, you're a funny guy!
Props for recognizing Scorsese flicks especially Goodfellas. As george carlin said, Joe Pesci seems like he would be a good god since he would get **** done.

Let's over-analyse the sh*t out of this and base the rest of our life based on the conclusion!

STOP OVER-ANALYSING FOR F*CKS SAKE!


NOW GO HOME AND GET YOUR ****ING SHINEBOX!!
 

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synergy1 said:
NOW GO HOME AND GET YOUR ****ING SHINEBOX!!
LOLLL
that's gona get you killed in a car trunk, watch it:)
now dance for me dance you stuteting prick

and yes tommy got **** done but it doesn't do him well in the end...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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piday314 said:
In your experience, when women whip out this line within the very first three convos you have with her, is this an IOI or a friendzone move?
I don't think it's an IOI or sign of friendzone in it of itself. You are reading into it too much. If she is physically attracted to you, funny is a plus. If she is not physically attracted to you, being funny just makes you a cool friend to talk to.

At worst, if you overdo the funny, you become the try-hard dancing monkey, and that is a turn off.
 

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synergy1 said:
Let's over-analyse the sh*t out of this and base the rest of our life based on the conclusion!

STOP OVER-ANALYSING FOR F*CKS SAKE!


NOW GO HOME AND GET YOUR ****ING SHINEBOX!!
by the way, why are you screaming at me :$ i haven't done anything:$



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