Your thoughts on the latest abortion ruling

[Pierce Manhammer]

You do know that smoking makes the pill not work, right? It also happens from secondhand smoke for women who have to work around smokers in bars and restaurants.

Bananas are also yellow.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

The worry would be under this system is that the constitution is hundreds of years old, it’s like basing your life on a book written thousands of years ago ;-)

It is easily one of the most relevant and beautiful documents of its kind in the world, alongside the Magna Carta, the Cyrus cylinder and others.

 

[Travel memoir21]

If you’re a closet conservative dude going to these pro choice rallies just to get poon tang….

you’re selling your soul.

 

[HaleyBaron]

If you’re a closet conservative dude going to these pro choice rallies just to get poon tang….

you’re selling your soul.

Those rallies never have the best girls, either, so it's like going to a bargain bin at the dollar store.

 

[Kotaix]

even things like snuff movies and minor abuse etc?

You can’t legalise things on the basis they’re going to happen anyway.

I am pro choice (but also pro shame, it’s not something to be proud of) but I had the same thought as you recently, and after much thought I realised that the fact things happen shouldn’t qualify it to being decriminalised.

Your point is very valid.

But I'm not sure these things are necessarily relatable. There ARE cases where abortions are an act of mercy. Minor abuse is never going to be merciful. And snuff films... well it's not illegal to die, it's just immoral to exploit them; and most snuff films are fake.

It's a gray area, which is where the controversy comes from. I think the majority of pro-choice people are completely turned off by the current propositions to terminate pregnancy when the fetus is viable and especially post-birth "abortions" that basically allow for infanticide as was proposed in california recently.

As always, good intentions and discussions are ruined by extremists from both sides of the argument.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I'm not american but given the same result in the european union I wouldnt care honestly.

There are pro and cons on both sides.

Pros are that women will be forced to handle the conseguences of their actions as much as experiencing on their own skin the amazing feeling of government interference in their private life.

Cons are that many people which I would be happy to see not to reproduce will in fact reproduce.

Either case a woman capable of getting rid of her own baby is not someone I would welcome in my life.

 

[Von]

Like Rollo tomassi says:

Abortion is the last fail-safe of hypergamy.

Men will now have a say, équal footing on the master.

Abortion wasnt abolish but left To thé state level

 

[Reyaj]

I’m replying directly to your post, left as an exercise for the reader.

I never even stated if I was pro life or pro choice just that I believe in the need of federal government. States can change from left to right as well.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Ok, but on a serious note I am obviously not in favor of women having 100% control of birth. A woman could laugh in your face then terminate your offspring. She could lie to you about taking the pill, refuse to get an abortion, then collect child support from you. I agree with the Iron Rule of Tomassi about controlling birth. Always use your own protection.

 

[redskinsfan92]

The economic cost of banning abortion is in the billions. We're all going to pay, because religious nutballs control the Supreme Court. Abortion bans keep women from working and paying taxes, and they end up taking more in social services instead of contributing to the economy.

But everyone here wants more of their tax dollars to go to welfare, right? That's what our Taliban of a Supreme Court is accomplishing.

I saw stats where poor women are having kids despite abortion access. It's single women making $47k+ a year getting abortions. I suspect the only change really will be the women between those two groups will be more proactive in using birth control with the loss of their failsafe.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I saw stats where poor women are having kids despite abortion access. It's single women making $47k+ a year getting abortions. I suspect the only change really will be the women between those two groups will be more proactive in using birth control with the loss of their failsafe.

Why wouldn't they? It's free money for 18 years and they are poor.

 

[redskinsfan92]

 

[wifehunter]

 

[wifehunter]

 

[EyeBRollin]

Like Rollo tomassi says:

Abortion is the last fail-safe of hypergamy.

Men will now have a say, équal footing on the master.

Abortion wasnt abolish but left To thé state level

How does banning abortion give men equal say?

 

[Billtx49]

How does banning abortion give men equal say?

I wouldn’t call it equal yet, but when an abortion becomes less available and more restrictive for a female to get based on where she lives, i.e., like having to travel out of state, I think more women than before will want to have the talk with baby daddy for his input beforehand instead of it being a her only decision…
Many people choose the path of least resistance first.

 

[Von]

I wouldn’t call it equal yet, but when an abortion becomes less available and more restrictive for a female to get based on where she lives, i.e., like having to travel out of state, I think more women than before will want to have the talk with baby daddy for his input beforehand instead of it being a her only decision…
Many people choose the path of least resistance first.

Pretty much.

It was said in a freshnfit show he was on.

Basically "restraining abortion" makes a men have a say in the matter (like politically voting against abortion)

Now the ladies likely won't go in their boyfriend back for an abortion (it's harder to cover a "girl weekend out of town" than I am working late tonight)

 

[EyeBRollin]

I wouldn’t call it equal yet, but when an abortion becomes less available and more restrictive for a female to get based on where she lives, i.e., like having to travel out of state, I think more women than before will want to have the talk with baby daddy for his input beforehand instead of it being a her only decision…
Many people choose the path of least resistance first.

So to be clear- the argument is that women are aborting babies that the baby daddy wants her to keep?

 

[Billtx49]

So to be clear- the argument is that women are aborting babies that the baby daddy wants her to keep?

The facts are that in the past his opinion and wants were not considered or asked for.
It was a her only decision granted by easy access. Men will likely have more of a say now, personally and/or through their votes…

 

[EyeBRollin]

The facts are that in the past his opinion and wants were not considered or asked for.
It was a her only decision granted by easy access. Men will likely have more of a say now, personally and/or through their votes…

What percentage of unplanned pregnancies would you say are when the man wants to keep the baby and woman does not as opposed to vice versa?