"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The biggest problem is that people don't see having success with women in the same way that they see other skills. To get better at baseball, you listen to pointers/coaching and you go and practice. You watch game tape and you break down your swing and look where it went wrong. Having great success with women is no different. Some guys were born with the ability to have great success with women, just like some guys were born with the perfect hand-eye coordination and athletic skills to play baseball. Others have to practice and put in more effort to fulfill their potential.

And like a previous poster said, I'm not here just to have success with women. I want to have extraordinary success. I had girls climbing over me in high school (sports star) but lost that status once I moved on to college. I've hooked up with a bunch of girls throughout college (even juggled sleeping with two girls at the same time over a period of many weeks - and they both knew there was another girl!), but I still know I've made a ton of mistakes and my success rate can be a lot higher.

I will admit, there are sections of the "seduction community" that are just a bunch of "internet geeks" and there is no voice of experience on the forums. There are also forums that simply generate hatred towards women. However, good places can be found. A good community is no different than sharing my ideas and dissecting my mistakes with my best wingman - at least you all know you are on the same page and going after the same thing.
 
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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GatorBait said:
The biggest problem is that people don't see having success with women in the same way that they see other skills. To get better at baseball, you listen to pointers/coaching and you go and practice. You watch game tape and you break down your swing and look where it went wrong. Having great success with women is no different. Some guys were born with the ability to have great success with women, just like some guys were born with the perfect hand-eye coordination and athletic skills to play baseball.

And like a previous poster said, I'm not here just to have success with women. I want to have extraordinary success. I had girls climbing over me in high school (sports star) but lost that status once I moved on to college. I've hooked up with a bunch of girls throughout college (even juggled sleeping with two girls at the same time over a period of many weeks - and they both knew there was another girl!), but I still know I've made a ton of mistakes and my success rate can be a lot higher.

I will admit, there are sections of the "seduction community" that are just a bunch of "internet geeks" and there is no voice of experience on the forums. There are also forums that simply generate hatred towards women. However, good places can be found. A good community is no different than sharing my ideas and dissecting my mistakes with my best wingman - at least you all know you are on the same page and going after the same thing.
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I agree i think some of the gurus are honest and love women and some of the ones you nver heard of probably are just geeks
 
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