"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Your opinion on the "seduction community"

GatorBait

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 2, 2006
Messages
90
Reaction score
2
Location
The Sunshine State
The biggest problem is that people don't see having success with women in the same way that they see other skills. To get better at baseball, you listen to pointers/coaching and you go and practice. You watch game tape and you break down your swing and look where it went wrong. Having great success with women is no different. Some guys were born with the ability to have great success with women, just like some guys were born with the perfect hand-eye coordination and athletic skills to play baseball. Others have to practice and put in more effort to fulfill their potential.

And like a previous poster said, I'm not here just to have success with women. I want to have extraordinary success. I had girls climbing over me in high school (sports star) but lost that status once I moved on to college. I've hooked up with a bunch of girls throughout college (even juggled sleeping with two girls at the same time over a period of many weeks - and they both knew there was another girl!), but I still know I've made a ton of mistakes and my success rate can be a lot higher.

I will admit, there are sections of the "seduction community" that are just a bunch of "internet geeks" and there is no voice of experience on the forums. There are also forums that simply generate hatred towards women. However, good places can be found. A good community is no different than sharing my ideas and dissecting my mistakes with my best wingman - at least you all know you are on the same page and going after the same thing.
 
Last edited:

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

Read more...

Chosen1

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 6, 2005
Messages
708
Reaction score
5
Location
South Bend
GatorBait said:
The biggest problem is that people don't see having success with women in the same way that they see other skills. To get better at baseball, you listen to pointers/coaching and you go and practice. You watch game tape and you break down your swing and look where it went wrong. Having great success with women is no different. Some guys were born with the ability to have great success with women, just like some guys were born with the perfect hand-eye coordination and athletic skills to play baseball.

And like a previous poster said, I'm not here just to have success with women. I want to have extraordinary success. I had girls climbing over me in high school (sports star) but lost that status once I moved on to college. I've hooked up with a bunch of girls throughout college (even juggled sleeping with two girls at the same time over a period of many weeks - and they both knew there was another girl!), but I still know I've made a ton of mistakes and my success rate can be a lot higher.

I will admit, there are sections of the "seduction community" that are just a bunch of "internet geeks" and there is no voice of experience on the forums. There are also forums that simply generate hatred towards women. However, good places can be found. A good community is no different than sharing my ideas and dissecting my mistakes with my best wingman - at least you all know you are on the same page and going after the same thing.
I agree i think some of the gurus are honest and love women and some of the ones you nver heard of probably are just geeks
 
Top