"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Your Experience with chicks who always

DJnoob

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say "i'm just joking".

Like, this chick at work would always say crap like

"when are you gona call me.. just joking"

"want to be my valentines? just jokijng"

"we gona hang out in your car? just joking"

its really annoying. Im thinking of maybe just saying "well, I wasnt' joking" if she brings something up again

So, my questions is, how would someone like you guys who are more experienced than me handle this?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Whether she is serious or not (sounds like she really wants some d1ck, and is trying to "drop hints"), just use it for some CF:

- Hey, if you want to take me out for dinner, just say so ;) *sly smile* but lemme tell ya... I'm not that easy.


Just go off on that sh1t. And by the way, is this someone you actually want to mack? If so, just proceed as usual (ask for number/whatever). If this is someone from work, well that's another story.
 

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if u really wanna mess with her say "you better be jokin"
 

DJnoob

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Originally posted by Gonzalo
Whether she is serious or not (sounds like she really wants some d1ck, and is trying to "drop hints"), just use it for some CF:

- Hey, if you want to take me out for dinner, just say so ;) *sly smile* but lemme tell ya... I'm not that easy.


Just go off on that sh1t. And by the way, is this someone you actually want to mack? If so, just proceed as usual (ask for number/whatever). If this is someone from work, well that's another story.
yeah, from work. I just want to eat her out.

Today she said: "hey, want to be my valentine, just kidding"
me: "ok, let me see your hand..first (examines nails) you need to get them done first"

One time like last week we were alone and I just straight up told her

"What time is your lunch, got 20 minutes? and oh, bring a can of whip cream"
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I always say that every joke has some truth behind it. Thus, she obviously wants to do something. Just be like "come over around 9pm and bring some dinner."
 

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ill try to get to the bottom of this and do a FR
 
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