"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Younger woman vs. Older woman.

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Knight's Cross said:
I totally agree with Big J. The older they are, the easier to get them to the bedroom, and the more difficulty you will have in getting rid of them if you pull the eject handle. Same can be said for a BPD chick of any age.
Basically decide what you want. LTR's are typically easier with older (not every case). Games are more often seen with younger.
I wouldn't say it is slightly easier to get an older woman in the bedroom. From what I have seen older woman and I consider older 27 and up want to at least feel that you care about them. To me it appears that they want to feel that they are at least headed in the relationship direction. They will test you to see if you really like them. Younger girls still want to have fun and are in the explorement phase.

I agree that it will be harder to get rid of the older chicks. And the younger ones do tend to play more games. Especially the 20-24 year old crowd. At that age they are exploring life and have too many things going on.

I spoke to the 21 year old girl that I am banging today and she is taking a job as a waitress at a bar. That is not what I consider relationship material and I am going to next her azz.

The way I see it I think every man should date a little younger being that we are visual creatures and younger woman are the prize in out society.
 

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Latinoman said:
You cannot mold a woman with a LOT of drama and mistrust in her past. She MIGHT make you believe you have molded her (especially if she is over 35)...I call that "bait"...then once she hooks you...she changes...I call that "switch".
lol.... Lets call it the bait and switch theory. I could see how older woman would try to manipulate you more than a younger woman. There clock is ticking. But we as men must pick up on these bait and swich specialists.
 

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Latinoman said:
You cannot mold a woman with a LOT of drama and mistrust in her past. She MIGHT make you believe you have molded her (especially if she is over 35)...I call that "bait"...then once she hooks you...she changes...I call that "switch".
Gold -
I learned this lesson the hard way -Women who grew up with drama at home make terrible LTRs - TERRIBLE !!! They are Academy Award winning actresses and usually have significant attachment problems in adult relationships..
 

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I prefer women my own agre (50 year old ) However if I cannot find one who appeals to me could I have TWO 25 year olds instead ?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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jophil28 said:
I prefer women my own agre (50 year old ) However if I cannot find one who appeals to me could I have TWO 25 year olds instead ?
Thats the right attitude
 

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jophil28 said:
I prefer women my own agre (50 year old ) However if I cannot find one who appeals to me could I have TWO 25 year olds instead ?
I just wonder how could any man be attracted to 50 year old pu$$y. Maybe when I am 60 that will be me, but I just can't see it right now.
 

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lookyoung said:
I just wonder how could any man be attracted to 50 year old pu$$y. Maybe when I am 60 that will be me, but I just can't see it right now.
I'm with you on that one lookyoung. Here's a LR I made a year ago about a bad lay with an older women that felt like I was banging sand
 

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lol.... Maybe it was her and not her age. The oldest girl I ever fvcked was 32 when I was 28. So I don't know much about older woman. But she had a pretty good pu$$y. although she took care of her self, had breast implants and looked 25.
 

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I think her age was the definate factor. Now that I rethink, she might have been 50. She was just dry and it wasn't fun.

I've had plenty of 30-40 yr old women and have never had a problem with that.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I've dated a 28 yo and a 37 yo whose "maturity" is codeword for "pain in the arse". The 18 yo I'm dating atm has a better head on her shoulders.
 

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lookyoung said:
I just wonder how could any man be attracted to 50 year old pu$$y. Maybe when I am 60 that will be me, but I just can't see it right now.
You would be surprised at how good they look and feel IF they have lived healthy. AND they are horny ..
 

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Jitterbug said:
I've dated a 28 yo and a 37 yo whose "maturity" is codeword for "pain in the arse". The 18 yo I'm dating atm has a better head on her shoulders.
Here are some more code words and common statements that you guys will encounter as you get older.

Women say in quotes , meaning in parenthesis.

" Im independent" ( I have a job and I did real well out of the property settlement)
" Im a strong woman " ( I am a hard a$$ baitch)
" Men are dogs" ( I can't get laid )
" "Woman power ..." ( I am a control freak )
" NO man is ever going to tell me what to do " ( I am a hard a$$ baitch AND a control freak)
" All men just want sex" ( This suits me because I have the golden pvssy)
" I just want a caring man " ( I want a servant )
" I want to be in an equal relationship " ( I want to be a little more equal that him)
" Women can have it all " ( Why cant I find a man to give it all to me)
" I want a man to protect me " (I want man to do all the heavy lifting )
" My Ex was a jerk " ( I am a blamer )
" Men are thoughtless " ( Men should read my mind )

I could go on ...
 

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jophil28 said:
Here are some more code words and common statements that you guys will encounter as you get older.

" NO man is ever going to tell me what to do " ( I am a hard a$$ baitch AND a control freak)
See I've always found the "no man is going to tell me what to do" line as meaning =

My jerk days are over (unfortunately), and now more than likely I'm stuck with the losers who force me to play more of a "dominant" role. But sh!t at the end of the day I'm still a chick so talk is cheap and if I even get the smallest sniff your a man of value...hell I'll let you beat me within an inch of my life if that's what it takes and still come back for more. I like your pants btw, are YOU my hero?


Anyways I just had to point out the obvious oxymoron in the title of this thread.

Younger woman vs. Older woman.
No such thing as a "versus" between the 2, makes as much sense (competition wise) as saying winner vs. loser.

Carry on.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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See I've always found the "no man is going to tell me what to do" line as meaning =

My jerk days are over (unfortunately), and now more than likely I'm stuck with the losers who force me to play more of a "dominant" role. But sh!t at the end of the day I'm still a chick so talk is cheap and if I even get the smallest sniff your a man of value...hell I'll let you beat me within an inch of my life if that's what it takes and still come back for more.
You bring up an excellent point. One that more guys need to remember, they can waste their energy complaining about what an AW, flake, high maintenance princess or a gold digging hor but the bottom line is, if your Don Juan enough any of those lovely ladies will be in line to suck your kawk.
 
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I don't date women that much, I just like to have one night stands or **** buddies, that's just the way I am. I've been with girls from 18 to 52 (I'm 37). I just go for the ones that are hot, no matter HOW old they are. But if I were to date a woman she'd probably be around 30-33, but nothing's concrete. But honestly, if you don't make age a big deal, then they won't either. I got a number from a girl who looks like Kirsten Dunst, and I asked her age (24) and she never asked mine. It can be done. Like any post on here, just do what comes natural to an alpha-male, even when your inner AFC tries to tell you any different.
 
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