You Were Not Cawkblocked. She Doesnt Like You

[Gamisch]

So he is good at making money. I dont mind asking him for business advice. I am good at talking to some women. He even admits it. How come he dont ask me for some tips? It sucks man because I valued the friendship. I sent him a text message apologizing and still no response.

Told you....

Women are more important than money ( to some men).

As someone mentioned; your friend group should literally be like a boys band when it comes to women. The one dating is the lead singer that day...the rest allows HIM to shine. The moment you sensed th e chemistry between you and her you should've walked away .

Something broke inside of him. Tbh I wouldn't even mind. He showed his true colours. People change . Nobody is the same person he was two decades ago.

You apologised, so the ball is in his court now. Every say he does not respond is adding to the embarrassment.

Move on

 

[BackInTheGame78]

doesn't matter how much your 'prepare' if you are not her type

Which is why what happens with any single encounter has no relevancy

 

[Velasco]

if you don't succeed, you just weren't skilled or prepared enough

you get lucky a lot more often when you've done the work to make yourself as attractive as possible (the preparation) and then go to areas at optimal hours you know to have girls that want the same thing you do (opportunity). compared to someone who doesn’t do the preparation and goes to areas that limits how many opportunities he’ll get.

 

[zekko]

Yeh well she initially said she was bringing friends but didnt. I think he just wanted to hang with the boys too and was like " some girl from online wants to hang out". She hit him up last minute.

That can happen but it makes me wonder if she set this up intentionally, to put herself out with a group of men and watch them compete over her.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Its important for men to be able to admit when a woman does not like them. My friend invited me on a date with a girl he had matched with online that day. He wanted to kill two birds with one stone. It was me and another guy with him. We have done this before and everything went fine. Ive known him for 2 decades.

I am charming with women because I been practicing since I was 17. I been on this site for 20 yrs. So this girl was talking to me the most. I was talking back but never in my mind was I trying to steal her. I would even try to redirect the convo to make it about them.

I called her his date and she made it clear that it was not a date. She even mentioned " you are trying to help your boy". Long story short we had a lot of chemistry. I made it clear that I was not interested because she should be with my friend. I even talked about his good qualities and tried to get her to go back to his house. She ended up ghosting him.

Now he feels like I cokbloked him. The other guy that was with us disagrees and just feels like she was not interested.

Side Note:

There is a girl I had been wanting to hang out with who was playing hot and cold. I had to admit to myself that she was just not interested. I dont know why men have such a hard time admitting this. Instead of being truthful they blame it on "cokblocking" or her playing "hard to get".

If a girls wants you then there is very little you can do to mess it up. Your vices turn into virtues. Its very simple.

Not the case in all situations. I knew a routine ****blocker who would wreck other men’s opportunities. I mean intentionally and thoroughly wreck them.

 

[Clockwerk50]

I had a similiar scenario when I was younger,my mate invited me out with his then girlfriend,I was making her laugh and getting on with her, he did NOT like it one bit and started getting snippy with me....I wasnt flirting,just being myself,I never stopped to consider the dynamics.. Whaddya do, NOT be yourself ? Its a minefield. he was jealous ultimately

Not saying it was you, but your story reminds me that we used to have a friend in our group in my early 20s who had no personality and never got girls. But as soon as we brought girls to hang out with us or brought our new girlfriends around, he'd suddenly turn into the loudest guy in the room. He would be cracking jokes, roasting everyone, and trying to be the center of attention. It was annoying.

 

[Zack Freedom]

I'd say it's always 'getting lucky' when someone pulls. In the UK, people always say 'did you get lucky last night?' as in 'did you pull'/'were any fish biting'.
The 'luck' bit is essentially finding a girl you think is hot who also thinks you are hot. It's not in our control so it's always luck, really.

I didn't think at the time of first reading it, but your post actually reminds me of an experience I had. In fact I even wrote a field report about it on this very site many years back when I wrote FR's. In brief, I approached a girl who seemed receptive, ran game, she bought me a drink and we flirted more and more. Was looking very much 'on' based on my experience up to that point.

Then my giga chad friend (who i've mentioned many times) simply walked over just to shake my hand to say hello.

Well, from that point, she only had eyes for him. Instant, super strong attraction. I was now invisible and she was chasing him so hard lol. He didn't even want her. I was still 'pua pilled' so done teh various tricks i'd read about in books to get her attention back on me (from being more fun than him to ignoring her to talking to other girls blablabla) - none of it mattered at all lol.

But I never 'blamed' my friend for 'c0ck-blocking' me. He done nothing wrong. He just extremely good looking and had that effect on her. I can't expect him to wear an ugly mask every time he walks into a bar haha

This goes back to a point someone made - "Women select men & men convince themselves they do the selecting"

It's also why there are a lot of snake oil PUA's who teach that you can negotiate attraction or pull of 'Alpha tricks' like ignore the girl or talk to other chicks into getting them to like you

In pretty much all cases of men meeting women in modern Western Society she either thinks your sexually attractive or not. Only serious Anti-Game from your end can mess things up from this point on.

In an old work place three years ago there was a girl I liked & I used every Alpha Trick to get her to like me (because I bought the PUA snake oil) but she ultimatley wanted to be with my chad co-worker even if he was slightly needy & displayed what some on her would call "Beta traits"

Honestly it was exhausting & I just had to concede she was more attracted to someone else

It's also why the people who say "online dating is weak real men do cold approach" live in a delusion bubble but that's another story for another day..

 

[Pandora]

That doesn't happen in a vacuum, certainly if she hasn't interacted much with you.

If a girl doesn't know much about your personality but finds you physically attractive, the environment in which she gets to know you can be critical.

In that regard, I can see how you unintentionally (perhaps) made it a bit more difficult on your friend by being your natural charming self.

A good wing/friend would have made his buddy look good rather than try and steal the show, accidentally or not.

Yes it was totally unintentional. She is an ethnic group that I dont normally even go for. I also told her I was married and I wear an obvious ring.

Ive recently upgraded my style to be more metro sexual. She commented on how she liked my style and said I dress like a gay man ( I took that as a compliment).

If I could go back in time I would have just sat there and not said much of anything when she tried to talk to me.

The bigger problem is that my friend is short and his game is not very woman friendly. He does not connect with them on a feminine level. Im going to make a post on that soon.

 

[Pandora]

Told The moment you sensed th e chemistry between you and her you should've walked away .

Something broke inside of him. Tbh I wouldn't even mind. He showed his true colours. People change . Nobody is the same person he was two decades ago.

You apologised, so the ball is in his court now. Every say he does not respond is adding to the embarrassment.

Move on

Bro you are talking real stuff. He has been struggling in the city for a while. To be fair everyone struggles with dating in this city.

You are right. No one is the same for 2 decades. Its unreasonable for me to expect him to react how he would have when he was 21 yrs old.

 

[Pandora]

In pretty much all cases of men meeting women in modern Western Society she either thinks your sexually attractive or not. Only serious Anti-Game from your end can mess things up from this point on.

This is pretty much all men need to internalize. This is the real RedPill that most men cant handle. Men are as delusional as women. They need to cope by denying that this is true. I guess it hurts too badly for some men to say “ she just was not that into me”.

In the less developed nations you can probably use some sort of game to court a woman. You can change her mind in poorer nations. Those women look at many factors sometimes but in the Western world forget about it. You not convincing any woman these days. She has too many other choices bruh.

 

[Pandora]

That can happen but it makes me wonder if she set this up intentionally, to put herself out with a group of men and watch them compete over her.

Oh wow. I never thought of that possibility. She did have a lot of dating “ experience” so I would not put this past her.

The messed up thing is that she didnt even say bye. She just unmatched my friend and dissapeared.

 

[Pandora]

He would be cracking jokes, roasting everyone, and trying to be the center of attention. It was annoying.

Yeh I can see that. The issue is that I never roast anyone. I actually do the opposite and boost my friend up. I genuinely enjoy making my friends look bigger than life. I have no scarcity mindset with women.

I was bragging about how good he was with money and business etc. She didnt care.

 

[Pandora]

I am significantly taller than the other guy so that might play a role.

Since I been married my game has turned up another level. I understand the feminine much better and that helps me connect with their perspective. The other guy kept denying her perspective.

I was talking to her about astrology, spirituality, emotions etc. All those topics are like catnip to women. I also present as almost gay

Men go on dates and think being totally logical and debating the woman is a good thing. Nooo. This is why that starving artist can steal the girl of the rich executive.

Too many succesful men are boring af to talk to.

During the convo I was literally cringing inside seeing where he was messing up.

Btw many women dont care if you have on a wedding ring. It probably makes you more attractive. She certainly didnt.

 

[Jor-El]

Not saying it was you, but your story reminds me that we used to have a friend in our group in my early 20s who had no personality and never got girls. But as soon as we brought girls to hang out with us or brought our new girlfriends around, he'd suddenly turn into the loudest guy in the room. He would be cracking jokes, roasting everyone, and trying to be the center of attention. It was annoying.

No not me there,I think it was that I was better looking than him and she was lapping it up..maybe id feel a bit p!ssed other way round,dunno,but,cant help your looks

 

[zekko]

Oh wow. I never thought of that possibility. She did have a lot of dating “ experience” so I would not put this past her.
The messed up thing is that she didnt even say bye. She just unmatched my friend and dissapeared.

Your story reminds me of a story Tyler from RSD used to tell. He was in a small group and they picked up some girls. One of his friends' girl decided she liked Tyler instead, it really made him angry supposedly. So he told them all to get lost and they picked up a different set of girls.

I remember picking up random girls with a friend, and mine ended up liking my buddy instead. Not a lot of fun. We did the same thing, told them to get lost. Well, I did anyway. My buddy was always pretty passive when it came to getting girls, I usually had to do all the work. He ended up getting married, his wife to be picked him up. Just came up and gave him her number on a piece of paper.

 

[Gamisch]

The fact you are married makes it even more pity.

No need to ignore you after recvieving apologies . Yet, I'd give him some time to get real.

 

[characternote]

This goes back to a point someone made - "Women select men & men convince themselves they do the selecting"

It's also why there are a lot of snake oil PUA's who teach that you can negotiate attraction or pull of 'Alpha tricks' like ignore the girl or talk to other chicks into getting them to like you

In pretty much all cases of men meeting women in modern Western Society she either thinks your sexually attractive or not. Only serious Anti-Game from your end can mess things up from this point on.

couldn't agree more. If I didn't know that we are different people, i'd think your post was one of my own haha