"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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"You are too blunt"

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A few girls have said this to me. I never paid it much mind because I saw it as a shít-test to be ignored. But today I had a needless argument with a girl over meeting up. She flaked on our plans but offered another day, so I said "<day> is fine but it will have to be evening. Kind of inconsiderate though tbh" because I wanted her to apologise for cancelling at the last minute. She came back saying she didn't want to see me if I would speak to her like that and I told her "Ok. But you should at least apologise". She did call a bit later and she did apologise, so that's all good, but during the conversation she said she had taken my message the wrong way because I'm "violent with words" when I text (she's foreign and this was the best way she could think to put it).

Looking back, I've had a couple of arguments start over a text I sent being interpreted as aggressive or snarky so it's not just her misunderstanding. I probably am doing something wrong. I don't mind being seen as blunt or aloof, but I don't want to have arguments because of it. I try to keep my messages short and sweet, but apparently I'm failing on the "sweet" part. What should I do differently? Just try to be less to-the-point?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Keep in mind when you text that most sentences in a text can be interpreted in more than one way by the receiver.
 

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A few girls have said this to me. I never paid it much mind because I saw it as a shít-test to be ignored. But today I had a needless argument with a girl over meeting up. She flaked on our plans but offered another day, so I said "<day> is fine but it will have to be evening. Kind of inconsiderate though tbh" because I wanted her to apologise for cancelling at the last minute. She came back saying she didn't want to see me if I would speak to her like that and I told her "Ok. But you should at least apologise". She did call a bit later and she did apologise, so that's all good, but during the conversation she said she had taken my message the wrong way because I'm "violent with words" when I text (she's foreign and this was the best way she could think to put it).

Looking back, I've had a couple of arguments start over a text I sent being interpreted as aggressive or snarky so it's not just her misunderstanding. I probably am doing something wrong. I don't mind being seen as blunt or aloof, but I don't want to have arguments because of it. I try to keep my messages short and sweet, but apparently I'm failing on the "sweet" part. What should I do differently? Just try to be less to-the-point?
HB: You're being too blunt
Me: **** you (with a giant smile on my face)

Lots of way too handle that statement. It could be that you aren't calibrating to certain women and you're not teasing, or as mentioned, it is a **** test.

Texting sucks for this very reason as nuance, subtlety, and context are often lost in text.
 

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Don't listen to what she says, look at her actions. She apologized, and rescheduled. That attitude got you results
Good point but I'm wondering: if I had been a bit more tactful, could I have gotten those results without arguing? I know girls like drama; I like it too and I'm pretty good at manufacturing it, but rescheduling a date isn't the time for negative feelings. It's hard to get someone to agree to something when they're in "argument mode".

Keep in mind when you text that most sentences in a text can be interpreted in more than one way by the receiver.
That's very true and I don't think I've ever had this come up with a man. That probably says it all.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Good point but I'm wondering: if I had been a bit more tactful, could I have gotten those results without arguing? I know girls like drama; I like it too and I'm pretty good at manufacturing it, but rescheduling a date isn't the time for negative feelings. It's hard to get someone to agree to something when they're in "argument mode".
Bro being a little dramatic. You are not arguing with her, just conversing. If you think that's arguing wait until you get in the real world, it will blow your mind.

The problem with changing your ways is they will come back and say 'You're too sweet.' I'm sure they wouldn't care about bluntness if you were a rich actor with a private jet.
 

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That's very true and I don't think I've ever had this come up with a man. That probably says it all.
Yes, women usually imagine into your statements their own interpreted meanings that don't exist in your reality.
 

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She's trying to make the rules + bad behavior.

I'd walk.
 

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A few girls have said this to me. I never paid it much mind because I saw it as a shít-test to be ignored. But today I had a needless argument with a girl over meeting up. She flaked on our plans but offered another day, so I said "<day> is fine but it will have to be evening. Kind of inconsiderate though tbh" because I wanted her to apologise for cancelling at the last minute. She came back saying she didn't want to see me if I would speak to her like that and I told her "Ok. But you should at least apologise". She did call a bit later and she did apologise, so that's all good, but during the conversation she said she had taken my message the wrong way because I'm "violent with words" when I text (she's foreign and this was the best way she could think to put it).

Looking back, I've had a couple of arguments start over a text I sent being interpreted as aggressive or snarky so it's not just her misunderstanding. I probably am doing something wrong. I don't mind being seen as blunt or aloof, but I don't want to have arguments because of it. I try to keep my messages short and sweet, but apparently I'm failing on the "sweet" part. What should I do differently? Just try to be less to-the-point?
Any time you call a chic out for bad behavior like you did there will likely be an argument! By nature, they have a difficult time owning up to their actions/words. Its always someone elses fault as to why they do what they do.

Using text messages to discuss an issue isn't a good practice. Too much room for interpretation. Most of communication is non-verbal.

I'm pretty straight forward and can be blunt as well at times. I've had to temper this. So what I've done is used "softer" language and tell them my displeasure at more appropriate times. But definitely don't change who you are, just dial it back a bit. You will also score points by putting people in their place. I've had many women praise me for it regardless of how they felt the moment I was calling them out.

I'm guessing this girl has low interest and that's the real reason she flaked at the last minute. Decent girls will apologize without being prompted. This is all bad manners/low interest on her part.
 
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Blunt is usually code for desperate.

Moving too fast. Trying too hard. Caring too much.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Blunt is usually code for desperate.

Moving too fast. Trying too hard. Caring too much.
So you're suggesting he be careless? Cold? Calm?

I mean, we're men, but we have emotions, too.
 

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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Blunt is usually code for desperate.

Moving too fast. Trying too hard. Caring too much.
I don't agree with that at all. Blunt is being too direct, candid, forthright. He called her out for being rude in a direct manner. So are you telling me you let that kind of schitt fly for fear of coming across as trying too hard or caring too much?
 

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A few girls have said this to me. I never paid it much mind because I saw it as a shít-test to be ignored. But today I had a needless argument with a girl over meeting up. She flaked on our plans but offered another day, so I said "<day> is fine but it will have to be evening. Kind of inconsiderate though tbh" because I wanted her to apologise for cancelling at the last minute. She came back saying she didn't want to see me if I would speak to her like that and I told her "Ok. But you should at least apologise". She did call a bit later and she did apologise, so that's all good, but during the conversation she said she had taken my message the wrong way because I'm "violent with words" when I text (she's foreign and this was the best way she could think to put it).

Looking back, I've had a couple of arguments start over a text I sent being interpreted as aggressive or snarky so it's not just her misunderstanding. I probably am doing something wrong. I don't mind being seen as blunt or aloof, but I don't want to have arguments because of it. I try to keep my messages short and sweet, but apparently I'm failing on the "sweet" part. What should I do differently? Just try to be less to-the-point?
Your texts come across as a bit passive aggressive and weak... It is also the way women communicate (covertly).

Telling her...
"kind of inconsiderate though tbh"
"But you should at least apologize"

Shows that you are weak. A man should be completely unphased by a flake. Would a prince care if one of his minions didn't show up to work? No, he would find a replacement!
 

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I think of it as being overly direct and lacking charm with spoken and texted language.
Yeah, being direct in itself is generally not a bad thing. It's the lack of tact, empathy, or social awareness that women find off-putting.
 

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You can accept women as is and work around em, or ***** n whine.
 

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Your texts come across as a bit passive aggressive and weak... It is also the way women communicate (covertly).

Telling her...
"kind of inconsiderate though tbh"
"But you should at least apologize"

Shows that you are weak. A man should be completely unphased by a flake. Would a prince care if one of his minions didn't show up to work? No, he would find a replacement!
Lol you kidding me? What he did is EXACTLY the type of thing a king would have done. Just letting it pass like that shows that the ruler can be disrespected and he will not do anything about it. What you are suggesting is weak behavior, not the way OP handled it. And it was by no means at all passive aggressive. If anything, he actually WAS too blunt. That's the whole point of this thread. He wants to know if he was being too direct. I'd say it wasn't too blunt though. He just pointed out what happened and said it was rude and that he wanted an apology. Not passive aggressive at all.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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