"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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You are such a Nice Guy

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What could you say to a woman that you intend to favk if she tells you "you are such a Nice Guy". I myself find it insulting just as being compared to a doormat.

A: "No, I am not"
B: "Really? I have never been told that"
C: "Pove me I am nice (Not sure what might happen after this)
D: "I can prove you wrong". Then escalate
E: "Would a nice guy grab a girls butt in public?" Then proceed to grab her butt (expect slap perhaps?)
F: "Thats not what you moma told me last night."
G: ?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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When they tell me this i fark her in the ass hard with no condom with my 12 inch ****. Actually i never get told this so i can't help you.
 

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Says nothing without context. If it bothers you being called nice, then that's a problem of insecurity you've to work on.
You find it insulting because it hurts your manly ego, but remember that women are a reflection of yourself. If anything, be mad at yourself and calibrate your mindset/actions to have another outcome.
 

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tell her you wanna have a threesome with her and perhaps another girl or guy and ask if she wants this too. you can be more subtle in the way you say it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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There is nothing wrong with being a nice guy so long as you are still able to be sexual with her without regards to her feelings. All it takes is for you to glance at her tits and smile to communicate this. If she gets offended, shrug and ignore her.

She can believe anything she wants. So long as you don't embody what she is saying and you don't let her assessment of you taint your self-esteem (getting butthurt by her words) then it's just her opinion.

So long as you're able to walk away from her if she gets offended, then you have all the power.

Offense is taken, not given. If you don't take offense to being called a nice guy then you aren't one.
 

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"I've been told that I'm sweet and spicy. Sweet in public and spicy in private..." Tell her that while you are smirking at her.

If anything, that will raise her curiosity and could lead to other things. And it's a very subtle way of hinting at things without being crude.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Contrary to PUA belief, "nice guy" in real world speak does not mean "doormat". The seduction community pushes this definition, but it's a niche group. This idea of the "nice guy" as a bad thing is becoming more mainstream. But I have heard many women describe men that they were clearly highly attracted to as "nice". I would just say thanks and proceed as normal.

The worst thing you can do is act butthurt and offended over it.
 

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I remember I one time had a date with this girl.....

Went out,date was "ok" and all. At the end I asked her about getting together again,and she started out with "I think you're a great guy....". Soon as I heard it,I went,"Oh sh1t......". I instantly knew things weren't going well and there would be no second date.

Over the years I've come to learn that women speak well..............they SPEAK WELL........of what they DON'T LIKE...........and criticize/speak negatively about what they DO LIKE in the realm of men and dating.

Ever heard of a woman calling a man a jerk or an azzhole....only to end up in bed with him?
Or a woman complimenting a guy,talking about how "nice" and/or sweet he is.....only to reject him to the friendzone?

What about a woman telling you that you're her "best friend"? You know that ain't going no where.

I can't speak for others,only myself. And me PERSONALLY.......I've never got the "you're a nice guy" line and it lead to a preferred outcome.
 

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Contrary to PUA belief, "nice guy" in real world speak does not mean "doormat". The seduction community pushes this definition, but it's a niche group. This idea of the "nice guy" as a bad thing is becoming more mainstream. But I have heard many women describe men that they were clearly highly attracted to as "nice". I would just say thanks and proceed as normal.

The worst thing you can do is act butthurt and offended over it.
Yea just like "cute" means good looking. I knew some cool alphas that females called "nice" because occasionally they'd do a favor.
 

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Yea just like "cute" means good looking. I knew some cool alphas that females called "nice" because occasionally they'd do a favor.
Yeah, the thing to remember is most women aren't reading SoSuave, so they're not as caught up in PUA terminology as we are.
 

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Yeah, the thing to remember is most women aren't reading SoSuave, so they're not as caught up in PUA terminology as we are.
I'm still hoping to someday overhear a chick drop the term "Chad" in casual conversation. I will spit out my coffee and die laughing.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I remember I one time had a date with this girl.....

Went out,date was "ok" and all. At the end I asked her about getting together again,and she started out with "I think you're a great guy....". Soon as I heard it,I went,"Oh sh1t......". I instantly knew things weren't going well and there would be no second date.

Over the years I've come to learn that women speak well..............they SPEAK WELL........of what they DON'T LIKE...........and criticize/speak negatively about what they DO LIKE in the realm of men and dating.

Ever heard of a woman calling a man a jerk or an azzhole....only to end up in bed with him?
Or a woman complimenting a guy,talking about how "nice" and/or sweet he is.....only to reject him to the friendzone?

What about a woman telling you that you're her "best friend"? You know that ain't going no where.

I can't speak for others,only myself. And me PERSONALLY.......I've never got the "you're a nice guy" line and it lead to a preferred outcome.
Exactly!
 

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I remember I one time had a date with this girl.....

Went out,date was "ok" and all. At the end I asked her about getting together again,and she started out with "I think you're a great guy....". Soon as I heard it,I went,"Oh sh1t......". I instantly knew things weren't going well and there would be no second date.

Over the years I've come to learn that women speak well..............they SPEAK WELL........of what they DON'T LIKE...........and criticize/speak negatively about what they DO LIKE in the realm of men and dating.

Ever heard of a woman calling a man a jerk or an azzhole....only to end up in bed with him?
Or a woman complimenting a guy,talking about how "nice" and/or sweet he is.....only to reject him to the friendzone?

What about a woman telling you that you're her "best friend"? You know that ain't going no where.

I can't speak for others,only myself. And me PERSONALLY.......I've never got the "you're a nice guy" line and it lead to a preferred outcome.
They do this with girls too. I've had girls say "my friend is really cute". The friend is never cute. But when they say "she can be a b*tch", this means she's smokin'.
 

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They do this with girls too. I've had girls say "my friend is really cute". The friend is never cute.
I don't understand women's taste in other women. I've heard many women talk about other women and about how beautiful they are, and when I see them I'm thinking they're not attractive at all. Well, tastes differ, so there's that. But maybe if the woman they talk about were truly that good looking, they wouldn't be wanting to give them that credit and admit it. They're already attractive, so they don't need the extra hype.
 

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I don't understand women's taste in other women. I've heard many women talk about other women and about how beautiful they are, and when I see them I'm thinking they're not attractive at all. Well, tastes differ, so there's that. But maybe if the woman they talk about were truly that good looking, they wouldn't be wanting to give them that credit and admit it. They're already attractive, so they don't need the extra hype.
I think women will call any other woman beautiful who is thinner and has an equal or better face than they do.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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