"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yes, Women Today Have More Options Than Some Men

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Kerpal said:
1. There are more men than women. Naturally, without artificial interference, there are 105 men born for every 100 women. This is BEFORE artificial pre-birth sex selection, abortion and infanticide, all of which skew the numbers to an even higher proportion of males.
There is actually a higher proportion of females to males in the world.

It's actually pretty simple to explain and it should be obvious for those who have a decent amount of experience. Every single girl I've encountered from ugly to average to hot has at least 2 guys texting them at a time. Some have over 5. One time I just got done banging my fb when she got a text from an ex bf asking her if she wanted to cuddle, hehe. She was like "why don't YOU ever text me? I have all these guys texting me and you're the only one I want to text me and you never do." I'll admit this girl isn't even that great looking, just someone to put my penis into sometimes.

So I replied with "why don't you text me if you want to talk to me?".

"Because it's the guy's job to do that."

Lol, over and over again I hear girls say that exact phrase. In this society it's the guys job to pursue and the invention of technology like text has made it easy to game multiple girls at a time. So girls have options without even having to do anything. All they have to do is make themselves available, give out their numbers and they'll have multiple guys texting them and therefore multiple options. So, like mentioned before in this thread it's technology that has made this so. Technology has multiplied a woman's options. Many of the other points in this thread such as "guys want sex more than girls" or "hormones" can't be valid because this has never changed. The ONLY thing that has changed in the past 10 years is the technology. The only way to move that in our favor is to work harder and talk to/text just as many girls.

Personally I hate texting and only use it sparingly, NEVER for a serious conversation. However, I know guys that text all day every day. I just think it cheapens interaction. The important thing is to stand out from the other dudes.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Kerpal said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sex_ratio

Yes in old age the numbers flip because men die earlier, but we're talking about young, sexually attractive women not old ones.
Interesting, thanks I stand corrected.

However, I still doubt that the difference if significant enough to produce such a drastic effect. Good point however, I really think that stuff is interesting.
 

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Well, I've reproduced so it's all fun and games from here on out. There is nothing I need from a woman besides sex. Companionship and having fun together is nice but I don't feel the need to tie myself to anyone just to gain that. What happens, happens. So what if a woman has options. Good for her. I hope she finds that special One. In the meantime lets have some nasty fun together until you get ready to go look for him. That's I live.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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hahaha Love this thread......well written too.

of course this thread is obvious.......it is about reality.....what most of you guys don't understand.

read the first few sentences......the OP wrote it to shut up the posters who are in denial on here.....jdealsilviera, amazing, the guys on the lunatic thread who dont understand.

if you guys cant get women....improve yourselves.....bottom line........dont blame women for not wanting to be with a superior man.....you should want to be a superior man.......its reality and the facts......accept them....if you dont want to change..then quit b1tch1ng about it......we are just stating the facts

high value women..........want a high value man

men want high value women......when they cant get them they go lower value

if you guys did something to enhance your qualities you would all be better off

some of these responses are classic.....just goes to show you who cant get the chicks on here.

I wrote a similar post the other day..... it got great reviews......this one beats it by far......great job man
 

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Ace_Magnamus said:
high value women..........want a high value man
Here, let me fix that typo for you:

high value women..........want a HIGHER value man .
 

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HoneyHitter said:
Here, let me fix that typo for you:

high value women..........want a HIGHER value man .
The problem is a lot of women are kind of delusional about their value. That is why certain women are always complaining they can't find a man.
 

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PappyS said:
The problem is a lot of women are kind of delusional about their value. That is why certain women are always complaining they can't find a man.
both sides are and both sides usually end up settling in some regard. women expect a lot without providing value, but men expect hot women without being valued themselves. Its a two way street that this forum tends to neglect mentioning from time to time.

I discussed this exact dynamic on another thread. Women in general have more options than guys. They don't need to do much to get what they want. If they want sex, its literally a few words away. However, when you leverage something as fickle as looks, you put yourself at the mercy of old age and the swaths of other hotter women who become of age, or who are entering the work force ( young 20s). Lets face it, some lucky women will land a NFL player, an actor, but most don't. Than their looks eclipse, and they have to learn to settle. Meanwhile as a guy, you are literally in control of everything in your life: finances, job, career, women. You hold the key. Being the aggressor allows you to pick rather than be chosen.

i am sorry, but I wouldn't give this up for anything in the world. Sure, we have to meet more women, but if your even halfway decent at it, you'll get something. There are plenty of smart, attractive women out there who want to meet you. Never abdicate control of ones own destiny....
 

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Kerpal said:
The numbers are stacked against us from the beginning, and once you take all these other factors into account you realize that unless you're at the top of the pyramid in terms of male attractiveness, you're in trouble.
You don't necessarily have to be at the top, but you should try to avoid being on the bottom. And even if you are at the bottom, as a young guy you have a lot of room to improve. Look at all the threads talking about how things are better in your 30s. Hit the gym, work on your career and social skills, those are probably the most important things.

Oh, and develop a positive attitude, women hate negative attitudes, and it doesn't help you do anything in life either. It will only hold you back.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Strelok said:
Captain obvious, noticed this post the high command decided for your promotion to general.

Jokes apart Elmer you can do better, that point is all over the board in N threads.
How can I do any better? This is an excellent thread. It is a well wriiten piece, it is straight forward, factual, concise, and states the obvious. Which is which is why wrote this thread to begin with, to state the obvious. If any of these ignorant guys on here haven't noticed, this topic was being argued all over the forum. So, I wrote this thread to put an end to this argument, and put forth, details, fatcs, knowledge, and experience to inform the guys that still had a problem beliving that women have more options than some men. Guess what? Some guys still don't want to believe it. I guess some of these ignorant guys who keep saying this thread was so obvious, missed the first few sentences in the first paragraph that states why I wrote this thread. It says it right there why I wrote it. But some guys are so ignorant that you have to spell everything out for them. Kind of makes you wonder how they ever get ahead in life. A lot of articles on the SS.com main page are obvious as well, but people still read them, and they learn, because some guys don't already know that information. Just like some don't know anything about this thread, because they still want to argue about it. Next time read everything you see in a thread before you make stupid comments and embarrass yourself on the forum for everyone to see. They understood it, why can't you? This wasn't really directed at you strelok, but the rest of the ignorant guys on here, although, you missed the point of this thread as well. Hopefully this clears it up for a second time, because with some guys, you have to spell everything out for them, that is a shame they can't get it the first time.





women haze said:
Yawn another long documentary from what Falcon33 says one of the females of the sosuave board Elmer Gantry....Who supports Women having their cake and eating it too, and does not know the power of walking away from trash...

Nothing to see here folks!!! moving along

Well, look who it is? The woman. The only time you post is when you write a stupid comment like this on my threads. This is one of your better posts by the way, that just shows more of your ignorance and stupidity. You sure have a lot of time on your hands to write on my threads. Guess that's the only enjoyment you get out of your day, showing your ignorance on my threads. I enjoy the laughs. Hopefully you will continue to post on my upcoming threads. I look forward to see how much more you can make an ass out of yourself. Maybe one day you can write excellent threads that provide solid information to help men with women with your own experience and knowledge like I do. Wait, I forgot you don't have any. Well, maybe you can tell us your experiences with all the dvd's and magazines you have to use because you have no experience with women. Hey, don't forget to tell your girlfriend Falcon I said hi.
 

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No sh*t Sherlock.

But I can say that you live in the real world beyond a reasonable doubt, and I respect that.
 

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it's supply and demand, business, economics, the supply of available hot beautiful single women is very low and the demand for the, by us guys is very high
 

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Hi Elmer, while I´m all for your good intentions, you never seen me say otherwise.

What I said is that not every women has guys pursuing them, if she does who cares, but not every women. I know many examples, and I can tell I have a sister (not to mention the many girl friends i have) that has named lots of decent looking friends that aren´t being pursued, or aren´t getting fvcked...

And most times the guys that are pursuing them are too ugly/ afc/ ***** to even be considered as options. I don´t consider the ugly girls that are pursuing me as options neither..
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Mike32ct said:
^This.

Forget about equal value traded for equal value. It doesn't work that way.
Sure Mike, but aren´t most guys looking for girls that are hotter than them?

Any guy would leave their current average looking girl, for a hotter one.
 

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Kerpal said:
So you're saying once their looks are fading and they've been pumped & dumped hundreds of times, all the rest of us who aren't at the top of the pyramid will finally have our chance? Awesome! :rolleyes:
Yeah after the old BMW has been changed hands over 6 owners and have been driven for miles and miles will it finally drop to a price that you can actually afford it.

That's just how life works. Nothing unfair about it. Want a nice new car? Work hard and pony up the cash for it.
 

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JdelaSilviera said:
Sure Mike, but aren´t most guys looking for girls that are hotter than them?

Any guy would leave their current average looking girl, for a hotter one.
True.

The point I was making is I get annoyed when I hear "Like attracts like.". That's how it SHOULD work in theory, but it doesn't happen that way in reality.

BOTH men and women want a "deal" or "sale.". They want that $700 flatscreen television for say $500. It's the same with looks. You might want to get someone who is a 9, but you try to obtain them "on sale" using your own looks (your "currency") that has a value of say 7 or 8.

I don't mean you specially, just people in general :rock:
 

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JdelaSilviera said:
Sure Mike, but aren´t most guys looking for girls that are hotter than them?

Any guy would leave their current average looking girl, for a hotter one.
But men only primarily demand looks, while women demand looks, personality, and economic success from men. Like Mike said, women are just as guilty about wanting a man that is better looking than they are. On top of that better personality and more economically successful than she is.

But none of that is even really the point. Having options is the point. The point is anyone can want anything, but women have more options. They CAN get a man that's better looking, better personality and wealthier than they are. So your fat, not so attractive, no personality girl can get something better than her and will not go for a man at her level let alone below it. That's the point. Men wanting a hot woman is nothing more than an unmet want if most women don't want them and most men can't get them. Probably every homeless person wants a million dollars, but that's little threat to others pursuing their million.


Mike32ct said:
True.

The point I was making is I get annoyed when I hear "Like attracts like.". That's how it SHOULD work in theory, but it doesn't happen that way in reality.

BOTH men and women want a "deal" or "sale.". They want that $700 flatscreen television for say $500. It's the same with looks. You might want to get someone who is a 9, but you try to obtain them "on sale" using your own looks (your "currency") that has a value of say 7 or 8.

I don't mean you specially, just people in general
Exactly. And it's like women are valued and spending greenbacks and your average man is valued in persos. It takes a lot of pesos to have the buying power of greenbacks.
 

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Kerpal said:
There are several things that explain this phenomenon.

1. There are more men than women. Naturally, without artificial interference, there are 105 men born for every 100 women. This is BEFORE artificial pre-birth sex selection, abortion and infanticide, all of which skew the numbers to an even higher proportion of males..
TIC said:
You've got it wrong. If there are 10 guys and 10 girls, the one alpha male will hog all of the women. Women are hypergamous. They all wan the best deal. None of them are willing to compromise at any level.

Girls #1-10 will chase guy #1. The remaining 9 men will remain celibate, alone, and none of their genes will be passed on.

Female hypergamy


^^^ thank you ..most men just refuse to believe this FACT!!:yes:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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