"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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"****y-Funny & Busting"

PrinceBeavis

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Just got an e-mail from David D, about C/F and busting...

...Now, I've been known to joke with women similar to that. But here's the thing. I've got to be in the mood for this, and it has to be the right time. I know I will F*#k myself if I try to do something like this at the wrong time, or if I force it.

And that material. If I asked a woman "where she got that ugly dress," and she said "Old Navy," and I said "you were in the Navy?" she wouldn't think it funny, she would think I was a blithering IDIOT.

My point? ****y/funny, and some friendly busting? Absolutely! But to the point where I was being a prick, or sounding like a bufoon? Really now.

I mean, to do it the same way you would joke with buddies, sure, but there's a point where a buddy would want to kick my @ss, and a woman would want to see me get it kicked.

Seriously...how far is this sheit supposed to go?
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The Zen Energy

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I don't got it TOTALLY figured out, but the thing with C/F is its more a matter of balance and not passing a certain boundary, once it hits your subconscious, it pours out with an almost perfect balance. 50% humor and 50% wiseass tactics. I for a while had a reputation for being a bit of a wiseass.....unfortunately, i started to become more boring than wet paint drying.
 

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PrinceBeavis said:
Whatsamatter? None of you "studs" got this figured out either?
Ouch that stings. Air quotes gets me every time.


If I asked a woman "where she got that ugly dress," and she said "Old Navy," and I said "you were in the Navy?" she wouldn't think it funny, she would think I was a blithering IDIOT.
Which part of this is ****y or funny let alone both? Kind of hard to be down on C&F when your example is neither.

My point? ****y/funny, and some friendly busting? Absolutely! But to the point where I was being a prick, or sounding like a bufoon? Really now.
If you're BEING A PRICK then it's not funny. Funny to her. Not you.
 

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PrinceBeavis said:
Just got an e-mail from David D, about C/F and busting...

...Now, I've been known to joke with women similar to that. But here's the thing. I've got to be in the mood for this, and it has to be the right time. I know I will F*#k myself if I try to do something like this at the wrong time, or if I force it.

And that material. If I asked a woman "where she got that ugly dress," and she said "Old Navy," and I said "you were in the Navy?" she wouldn't think it funny, she would think I was a blithering IDIOT.

My point? ****y/funny, and some friendly busting? Absolutely! But to the point where I was being a prick, or sounding like a bufoon? Really now.

I mean, to do it the same way you would joke with buddies, sure, but there's a point where a buddy would want to kick my @ss, and a woman would want to see me get it kicked.

Seriously...how far is this sheit supposed to go?
you can get away with lots of C&F if you never Qualify yourself. Remember women become attracted when they are frustrated a little, I know it makes no sense . until you see it a thousand times.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Myriad By Python

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I believe C/F should not be the main theme in an interaction. It should be just thrown in there like a spice. I really think a lot of girls (unless they're dumb.. or 14 yrs old) are too mature for C/F, I feel they want something more during an interaction.

My advice, start learning how to have fun with the girl rather than just busting on her the entire time.
 
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