Scorpio13c
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Just wondering what anyone recommends for a Christmas gift for a woman when in a new relationship?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Xmas gift after 1.5 Months?
- Thread starter Scorpio13c
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
jophil28
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Fridge calendar so she can pencil in her next date with you.
Scorpio13c
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Lol, I'm not that jaded, but thanks Jophil, I hear you!jophil28 said:Fridge calendar so she can pencil in her next date with you.
Boilermaker
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:crackup:vatoloco said:
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
cedd
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give her your body for one X rated night
PokerInTheRear
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Lube and some knee pads?
LovelyLady
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A candle, a book, a picture frame for a tabletop or desk, or perhaps a small bamboo plant (for luck and prosperity in the New Year).
Ha! The guy obviously has a great sense of humor!Boilermaker said::crackup:vatoloco said:
Okay, seriously now. You have to give more details. Exclusive? For how long? How long ago did you meet her? Details, man. Details.
I personally don't like giving gifts on holidays to random plates. I only give gifts (and even then, moderately-priced and meaningful) to a plate that has requested exclusivity, has been granted it, has been a good girl and she deserves it.
And btw, I hope it's not the same girl from last year's Christmas dinner thingy.
Scorpio13c
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Hey Vatoloco, no, not the same woman from last year, thank goodness!vatoloco said:Ha! The guy obviously has a great sense of humor!
Okay, seriously now. You have to give more details. Exclusive? For how long? How long ago did you meet her? Details, man. Details.
I personally don't like giving gifts on holidays to random plates. I only give gifts (and even then, moderately-priced and meaningful) to a plate that has requested exclusivity, has been granted it, has been a good girl and she deserves it.
And btw, I hope it's not the same girl from last year's Christmas dinner thingy.
It's been almost two months and yes exclusive. She hinted at a IPod but I told her I wasn't going to buy her that. Now I'm stuck for ideas..
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Quiksilver
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Something small, no more than $50.
I'm in the same situation. Except I've got her Bday and Christmas this month to shop for. I'm roughly keeping it around $60 each. A casual necklace with a charm thingy she has the symbol everywhere, a dvd, and probably some perfume someone recommended. I'll split up the gifts for both occasions and take her to dinner as well for her bday.
Look around her house see what she likes. The more you know her the more original you can be.
Look around her house see what she likes. The more you know her the more original you can be.
ChalengeGuyFan
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Notice how the only comment on that book is one of a MAN.vatoloco said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.