"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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WTF? Girl I NEXTed contacts me after one whole month!

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Originally posted by Tails
like icey said, hang out, go see movies, cuddle, kiss. do things friends do.
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Actually I meant doing those things WHILE fukking her, buit ok :D
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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oh. you playa you ;)
 
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Originally posted by ThunderMaverick
Wow. You're really posting in the wrong site. That's not a real definition of a DJ.

Edit: Who cares about her feelings? You should care if she wants to give you that as well besides her body. If you're not accepting both when she wants you to accept both, you are using her. That is wrong. If you hurt someone purposefully, that is wrong.

Thus, it's not DJ at all. Genius.
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Well thats his defintion of a DJ. Well in life people tend to take what they want and leave the rest. If that is his attitude to life, let him take it. AND WHO THE **** ARE YOU TO SAY WHAT IS WRONG FOR HIM. Wrongness is SUBJECTIVE, its wrong for you, but not for him.
 
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Originally posted by duke007
Excellent advice everybody, but no need to get all emotional abou it! I can see the positives in both sides of the argument, but I think it's wrong to just go for a f*ck like a jerk.

I'll call her up and ask her out for something safe...like lunch, which will allow me to gauge what she thinks of me and see if she has changed in anyway. Who knows? Maybe if she's been thinking about me this long she's taken steps to be more appealing.

If she's the same child as before, I'll next again. If not I'll let her know that I'm not after any long term relationships. I could say soemthing like, "That doesn't mean we can't continue to see each other on a semi-regular basis."

Does that imply my intentions for fukk buddy status? Unlike Tails example, it's hard to see a virgin bringing it up.

All I need though is some way of controlling the conversation so that I can judge her preparedness for a sexual relationship. How do you think I can go about this?

thanks everyone
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for all you know, she may want just a d!ck. she may want to "use" you to get some sexual experience under her belt. you just don't know.

"That doesn't mean we can't continue to see each other on a semi-regular basis."

that's a fine lead-in. if she has half a brain, she'll know what's up.
 
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Originally posted by JSH
Well thats his defintion of a DJ. Well in life people tend to take what they want and leave the rest. If that is his attitude to life, let him take it. AND WHO THE **** ARE YOU TO SAY WHAT IS WRONG FOR HIM. Wrongness is SUBJECTIVE, its wrong for you, but not for him.
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*sigh* Read the last post I made again...AND read it thuroughly, Jr. He asked for advice, I gave him one perspective.


JSH: How often to you liked to be played?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Originally posted by ThunderMaverick
JSH: How often to you liked to be played?
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Oh, I love it when girls use me as a sex toy. I love when people use me as protection, to heighten their image, to feel better...

I love to be used. It means I worth something. It means people need me.

Now, if nobody wants to use you, then you have a problem...

Get it?
 
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We're talking about two different kinds of "Use" here, Iceman, and you know it. So stand down before I make a two page reply about it.

You know good and well what I'm talking about.
 
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I am not iceman. I am Ice Cold :D

I think we're talking about the same use and abuse. It's just I like to stage it the smart way...
 
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heh, good to see your interested but it has only been two days since this happened.

I'll call tomorrow and setup a date, and then I'll let you know how it goes
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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OK, here's the update

Blehhhhh! That was my first impression when I saw the girl waiting for me where I'd said we'd meet for lunch. Not that she looked particularly ugly, but her appearance hadn't really changed for better. She still looked like jailbait! I wanted to use that line from the tips forum, "You look different," but I couldn't!

Only this time she put on make-up, but it didn't suit her at all. She looked almost like a teenbopper experimenting with new things :(

(She had a presentation in the class next so the students must have been thinking, "WTF, she made up her face for this? :)")

At first I asked her to help me find a cool necklace from the outdoor market just nearby. She gave next to no useful advice....women are supposed to be opinionative on what looks good on guys! She was way to quiet and indecisive. We went and got food but she barely ate any.

She was the same innocent, immature girl I knew a month ago. I felt like a fricking paedophile trying to flirt with her! She has no idea how to deal with guys. I tried to find out if she changed but she said she's still a good girl, and didn't want to go to some party with her friends, her were all "heavy drinkers". I want to go to that frickin party!

So that's it. Who knows she may want d1ck and is way too shy to admit it, but it's barely even worth it for me.
 
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