"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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WTF? Girl I NEXTed contacts me after one whole month!

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Originally posted by Tails
like icey said, hang out, go see movies, cuddle, kiss. do things friends do.
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Actually I meant doing those things WHILE fukking her, buit ok :D
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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oh. you playa you ;)
 
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Originally posted by ThunderMaverick
Wow. You're really posting in the wrong site. That's not a real definition of a DJ.

Edit: Who cares about her feelings? You should care if she wants to give you that as well besides her body. If you're not accepting both when she wants you to accept both, you are using her. That is wrong. If you hurt someone purposefully, that is wrong.

Thus, it's not DJ at all. Genius.
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Well thats his defintion of a DJ. Well in life people tend to take what they want and leave the rest. If that is his attitude to life, let him take it. AND WHO THE **** ARE YOU TO SAY WHAT IS WRONG FOR HIM. Wrongness is SUBJECTIVE, its wrong for you, but not for him.
 
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Originally posted by duke007
Excellent advice everybody, but no need to get all emotional abou it! I can see the positives in both sides of the argument, but I think it's wrong to just go for a f*ck like a jerk.

I'll call her up and ask her out for something safe...like lunch, which will allow me to gauge what she thinks of me and see if she has changed in anyway. Who knows? Maybe if she's been thinking about me this long she's taken steps to be more appealing.

If she's the same child as before, I'll next again. If not I'll let her know that I'm not after any long term relationships. I could say soemthing like, "That doesn't mean we can't continue to see each other on a semi-regular basis."

Does that imply my intentions for fukk buddy status? Unlike Tails example, it's hard to see a virgin bringing it up.

All I need though is some way of controlling the conversation so that I can judge her preparedness for a sexual relationship. How do you think I can go about this?

thanks everyone
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for all you know, she may want just a d!ck. she may want to "use" you to get some sexual experience under her belt. you just don't know.

"That doesn't mean we can't continue to see each other on a semi-regular basis."

that's a fine lead-in. if she has half a brain, she'll know what's up.
 
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Originally posted by JSH
Well thats his defintion of a DJ. Well in life people tend to take what they want and leave the rest. If that is his attitude to life, let him take it. AND WHO THE **** ARE YOU TO SAY WHAT IS WRONG FOR HIM. Wrongness is SUBJECTIVE, its wrong for you, but not for him.
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*sigh* Read the last post I made again...AND read it thuroughly, Jr. He asked for advice, I gave him one perspective.


JSH: How often to you liked to be played?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by ThunderMaverick
JSH: How often to you liked to be played?
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Oh, I love it when girls use me as a sex toy. I love when people use me as protection, to heighten their image, to feel better...

I love to be used. It means I worth something. It means people need me.

Now, if nobody wants to use you, then you have a problem...

Get it?
 
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We're talking about two different kinds of "Use" here, Iceman, and you know it. So stand down before I make a two page reply about it.

You know good and well what I'm talking about.
 
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I am not iceman. I am Ice Cold :D

I think we're talking about the same use and abuse. It's just I like to stage it the smart way...
 
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heh, good to see your interested but it has only been two days since this happened.

I'll call tomorrow and setup a date, and then I'll let you know how it goes
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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OK, here's the update

Blehhhhh! That was my first impression when I saw the girl waiting for me where I'd said we'd meet for lunch. Not that she looked particularly ugly, but her appearance hadn't really changed for better. She still looked like jailbait! I wanted to use that line from the tips forum, "You look different," but I couldn't!

Only this time she put on make-up, but it didn't suit her at all. She looked almost like a teenbopper experimenting with new things :(

(She had a presentation in the class next so the students must have been thinking, "WTF, she made up her face for this? :)")

At first I asked her to help me find a cool necklace from the outdoor market just nearby. She gave next to no useful advice....women are supposed to be opinionative on what looks good on guys! She was way to quiet and indecisive. We went and got food but she barely ate any.

She was the same innocent, immature girl I knew a month ago. I felt like a fricking paedophile trying to flirt with her! She has no idea how to deal with guys. I tried to find out if she changed but she said she's still a good girl, and didn't want to go to some party with her friends, her were all "heavy drinkers". I want to go to that frickin party!

So that's it. Who knows she may want d1ck and is way too shy to admit it, but it's barely even worth it for me.
 
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