Okay guys, so i'm going to be honest. I have one really great talent..... it's poetry/song writing.... I'm not trying to brag, but I really am great at this. The honest question is: What does this get me? My friends are all athletic, or musically gifted, and get girls that way, but I'm only good at writing. Doesn't my writing come off as AFC? I mean, that's how I interpret it. What do you guys think
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Wtf does this get me
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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Don Juan
What does it get you? Well, when it comes to getting girls, not much, but don't feel bad because being a great writer can be beneficial in a lot of other ways.
Metaphysical
Senior Don Juan
You have no idea what a great gift you have if you are really talented. I am very gifted at writing too. I can write 10 page essays in an hour and get amazing marks on them. Like you, I did the whole poetry thing for years.
I decided to continue this in an actual thread, since i thought this topic was so important: check it out here
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=152256
I decided to continue this in an actual thread, since i thought this topic was so important: check it out here
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=152256
Five To One
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Learn to play the guitar.
Not only is playing the acoustic guitar a good hobbie but if you really are good at song writing and poetry then this could become a real passion of yours.
Its not easy to learn so it has to be something you really want to do but it could really be something you enjoy, writing acoustic guitar songs.
Iv tryed putting some words together with some chords, it was horrible. Ill stick with playing what other people have written, but you on the other hand may have what it takes. Give it a try and dont waste a talent.
I wouldn't say it helps me get girls on the field but it always impresses the ones who come back to my place and get to know me better.
Not only is playing the acoustic guitar a good hobbie but if you really are good at song writing and poetry then this could become a real passion of yours.
Its not easy to learn so it has to be something you really want to do but it could really be something you enjoy, writing acoustic guitar songs.
Iv tryed putting some words together with some chords, it was horrible. Ill stick with playing what other people have written, but you on the other hand may have what it takes. Give it a try and dont waste a talent.
I wouldn't say it helps me get girls on the field but it always impresses the ones who come back to my place and get to know me better.
I already play guitar hahahahahahaha. I'm not great at it, but I'm not horrible. i've been playing for about 4 years, and I do write songs. I just wish i had something that was beneficial. Girls don't give a damn about my AFC poetry
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Nygard
Senior Don Juan
So what? It's just a hobby. Who gives a damn about what they think?
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You damn right they dont, you'd be hard pressed to find a guy who appreciates this crap, let alone a chick.Jokerlsk said:
Chicks and poetry ? Is kind of like building a mansion for your dog (btw the mansion is only a mansion to you, it's a pile of sticks to anyone else). Now dont get me wrong I'm not saying "poetry" is by any means next level stuff, strictly for the dreamers and deep thinkers, on the contrary just about anyone can pump out this drivel and claim it "good". I'd personally rather lick the back of a toothless Russian hag than sit through someones poetry.
As a matter of fact I think pursuits such as "poetry" and his less retarded cousin "philosophy" are dead ends, probably concocted by *******s and jerks to keep the betas/losers occupied while they rail his muse.
I dislike poetry almost as much as I do David Lynch movies. Mind you not as much as I do the target audience for this crap.
what does this get you? This usually gets you laid. Here's the secret a lot of the songwriters I've met living here in Nashville talk about using when they were younger:
What you do is you write one really good, really pretty love song. Not some peice of AFC garbage that is just fluff lyrics you came up with as you got the melody, but some good lyric writing that you have seriously edited and re-wrote until it was great. Really pretty melody and the whole thing.
Then, you never let anyone hear the song unless it's a girl you're dating and you're ready to really impress her. You tell her that you wrote the song for her recently, and then you play it.
What makes it great is you can play the same song for dozens of women, so long as none of these girls ever make you play the song publicly.
You don't realize how many points you'll get for writing a song for a girl. Here's an example:
So a while back I'm dating this girl. She breaks up with me. The first thing I do is sit down and spend twenty minutes writing a pissed off break up song. The verses were all the ways in which she sucks, and the chorus is about how she can **** herself. I wrote it really quick, then went out with my friends and got drunk. It ended up being a pretty funny song, so I'd play it for my friends from time to time as a joke.
A few months later she invited me over and we were having a few drinks and she asked me to play her the song. Even though the song is nothing but insults to her, she still pretty much loved it. She was obviously really flattered that someone had written a song about her. It didn't even matter that the song was all about how she sucks.
Just keep in mind, though, that writing girls songs loses it's punch pretty quick if you're writing her lots of tunes. So don't make it a regular thing.
What you do is you write one really good, really pretty love song. Not some peice of AFC garbage that is just fluff lyrics you came up with as you got the melody, but some good lyric writing that you have seriously edited and re-wrote until it was great. Really pretty melody and the whole thing.
Then, you never let anyone hear the song unless it's a girl you're dating and you're ready to really impress her. You tell her that you wrote the song for her recently, and then you play it.
What makes it great is you can play the same song for dozens of women, so long as none of these girls ever make you play the song publicly.
You don't realize how many points you'll get for writing a song for a girl. Here's an example:
So a while back I'm dating this girl. She breaks up with me. The first thing I do is sit down and spend twenty minutes writing a pissed off break up song. The verses were all the ways in which she sucks, and the chorus is about how she can **** herself. I wrote it really quick, then went out with my friends and got drunk. It ended up being a pretty funny song, so I'd play it for my friends from time to time as a joke.
A few months later she invited me over and we were having a few drinks and she asked me to play her the song. Even though the song is nothing but insults to her, she still pretty much loved it. She was obviously really flattered that someone had written a song about her. It didn't even matter that the song was all about how she sucks.
Just keep in mind, though, that writing girls songs loses it's punch pretty quick if you're writing her lots of tunes. So don't make it a regular thing.
dude. you are lucky as hell. get Drunk. head back to your place. tell her you will read her poety. Her pusssy will get wet, then do her. man. I would love to have that gift. Apparently all I have is patience, hard-working, and yea...tahts about it lol. The rest is just me being badass 
I use poetry. But in a way that leads her imagination. I give them as little gifts. I will share them as a way of connecting. My poetry is designed in a way that's passionate and not Chumpy. I lead the imagination by using language in a way that makes her really feel it.
You have a gift.
Don't feel bad for who you are. Just because some dude says "Poetry is for girls, men do bla bla"
If they say that then they dont know the first thing about being a man and they are merely posers. Being a man is about acting on your desires and intentions and sharing who you truly are to the world without apology.
You have a gift.
Don't feel bad for who you are. Just because some dude says "Poetry is for girls, men do bla bla"
If they say that then they dont know the first thing about being a man and they are merely posers. Being a man is about acting on your desires and intentions and sharing who you truly are to the world without apology.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.