"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Wow this feels weird.

Perfect10

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Seriously... To be on the other side of the KBJs.
I'm acctually nervous to call this chick, to ask her out.
It's so weird :DDD You KBJs (such as myself sometimes) live it easy. You guys just give advice which is 100% textbook correct but you never put yourself in risk of getting hurt or rejected. That's why you'll never become better. It's easy to write and lecture but actually doing feels goddamn nervrecking.

So now I'm going to be the one asking for advice which I basically should already know but since I've not done it for a looong looong time and only talked about it here on SS I'll ask it anyways.

I'm about to call this chick who's 5 years older than me. I've got NO idea if she's intrested but we'll see, only if I get her out on a date first.
I know that I should "command her" to come out and just tell her to be where and when at the location. It's just that if she rejects me and doesn't give a counteroffer then what should I say? I know I shouldn't be angry nor will I. I'm just wondering if I should be like: Okay, I'll call you another day. Is that okay?

So yeah there you go.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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shaunuk

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I'm not sure exactly what you're really asking.

When did you meet her? How much have you talked with her (in person)? If you want to hang out with her just ask her to hang out. There's no advanced method here.
 

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Yeah, you shouldn't over-complicate things. Just simply ask her if she wants to hang out.
 

Buddha_Mind

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Nervousness isn't always a bad thing. And being nervous, in my mind, is often a good sign. It means I'm excited about something, and I'm working towards a desirable outcome.

There are definitely times when nervousness can paralyze. But a big part of showing mental strength, I believe, is not allowing it to.

GL man. Stay positive and inviting, why wouldn't she enjoy your presence?
 

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Assume she is interested. Have a reasonably specific plan and suggest she comes along. If she declines and doesn't give a counter offer then don't say "Ok, I'll call you another time" or anything like that. You just say "Ok, bye" and NEXT her instantly.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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PlaysToWin said:
Assume she is interested. Have a reasonably specific plan and suggest she comes along. If she declines and doesn't give a counter offer then don't say "Ok, I'll call you another time" or anything like that. You just say "Ok, bye" and NEXT her instantly.
"Ok bye" is good :) Simple and precise.

Although I wont give up that easily. I'll give her one more shot if she declines the first one.

I was JUST going to call her and guess what happened? She started to write to me on Facebook chat. Which I take as a good sign. She actually added me a few days ago. I think the chat went okay but then she had to go play footsal (soccer indoors the size of a icehockey court) which I know for 100% is true so she didn't ditch the convo. I'll call her tomorrow to ask her out on wednesday to play pool. Let's see how the cookie crumbles with this chick :)

I'd say she's a 8 but her personality makes her a 9-10 in my opinion. She's possibly like this because she's 25 which makes her a bit more mature than my aged chicks :) Nice!
 
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