"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Would you wait 90 days to have sex with a girl?

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Most chicks that fvck in the first few weeks are slvts... So in other words if a chick wants to wait then I have no problem.
 

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Yeah, just if I'm not head over heels with butterflies in my stomach, then I'm definitely not going to stick around for so long ;)
 

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Look up the iron rules of tomassi.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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ArcBound said:
Look up the iron rules of tomassi.
Hey bro,
I clicked on the link for that "Paul The King" and it was REALLY good (along with entertaining pictures). Thanks for the link.
 

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Sure, just as long as I'm not getting sloppy seconds and she's a quality girl. The good things you wait for. On the other hand how to be sure she's quality and not sloppy seconds?
 

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I might, but i'd be pursuing other girls at the same time.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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SamTheHobit said:
Most chicks that fvck in the first few weeks are slvts... So in other words if a chick wants to wait then I have no problem.
I completely disagree. I usually bang a chick by the fourth date. How soon a woman has sex has nothing to do with her 'slvt' status. If she's fvcking three guys at the same time and one of them is her husband, THEN you have a slvt on your hands.

A high level of attraction will cause a woman to sleep with you quicker. A low level of attraction will cause her to look in other places for sex.
 

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It all depends. If she was a very quality woman and insisted, then yes. I don't really see any women (21+ is my age bracket) waiting more than a handful of dates if your game is right
 

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Desdinova said:
I completely disagree. I usually bang a chick by the fourth date. How soon a woman has sex has nothing to do with her 'slvt' status. If she's fvcking three guys at the same time and one of them is her husband, THEN you have a slvt on your hands.

A high level of attraction will cause a woman to sleep with you quicker. A low level of attraction will cause her to look in other places for sex.
I guess we both have different opinions on what a slut is.
 

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Deep Dish said:
I would never wait. Passionate relationships begin... passionately. It's the natural order of things.Not true, and not true.
What if she just had a major operation and needs time to heal up? There's always reasons, some are valid. Some.
 

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Alle_Gory:
What if she just had a major operation and needs time to heal up? There's always reasons, some are valid. Some.
I suppose some bizarre yet legitimate circumstance would warrant consideration, but subjected to the fluctuations of the sexual marketplace. Chances are almost guaranteed the girl would be your average girl with no endearing characteristics which are not readily replaceable. So the multiple prospects would keep spinning, increasing the chances of finding someone else, equally suitable sans medical complications, before the girl was done with her healing.
SamTheHobit:
Imagine how many guys she fvcked before you, if she fvcked you on the the first few dates. Perhaps a girl who has had many sexual parthners doesn't really bother you.. But I can't imagine you having any respect for her.
Imagine the infinite wisdom you would have gained if you actually read (for comprehension) the link I gave you.

I have a zinger of truth for you: sluts have high standards. Sluts are only ‘sluts’ towards men of high value. What this means for men of lower value is the sluts act more prudishly, conservatively, make the guy wait longer, mimicking the façade behavior of “good girls.” It’s a holding pattern at the airport while other airplanes land. The fact of the matter is you can wait three months for sex with a girl and for her to be promiscuous. The game of women is a chameleon cloaked in wearing social masks.

There are also three stages of seduction—attraction, comfort, and seduction—but if you spend too much time in the comfort stage, your seduction loses its momentum, destroying your seduction. When a girl is primed, strike when the iron is hot. When you run good tight game, the iron will be hotter a lot sooner. But don't confuse the speed the iron strikes hot as necessarily reflective of her bedposts with the rest of society—it could simply be she really likes you.

There are telltale signs you’re dealing with a slut, but a girl’s speed limit with you, individually, isn’t one of them. Even though sluts make horrible girlfriends, they are sure fun.
 

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So you're saying if a girl fvcks you on the first night she's not a slut? After all this is a "speed limit". I'm willing to put money on it, she has fvcked many guys.

I don't really give a fvck what anyone thinks but quality women are the ones you wait for.
 

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SamTheHobit said:
So you're saying if a girl fvcks you on the first night she's not a slut?
She could be a slut, but you missed the point. The quickness to bed should not be used to infer a woman’s sexual history, as it is simply too unreliable. A slut can proverbially sleep with the whole football team but make you wait six weeks, whereas if you are the right guy, at the right time, with the right game, a genuine “quality girl” can be so charmed and enamored by you, so deep in her desires, she throws caution to the wind and bangs on the first night.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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