"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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would you use this line?

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Would you use this line or something similar....

I was waiting for the train and I saw this woman with shapely legs....legs are very important to me.

I wanted to go up and compliment her on her dress first, then mention her great legs. She knows she has them and I like them.

have you guys had success being bold or would you word it different?
or is that immature? She was obviously in her 30s.


side note..

I didn't do anything...which is why I'm here asking.. Ugh...i hate hesitation. .

but


some young skinny blonde chicks were promoting stuff and I conversated with the youngins so I forgot about the legs.

I'm glad I can come here and share ideas with you players
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You earn money so you can buy the big juicy steak; you don't go straight in to the field waving a machete like a mad man.

To clarify; I talk to a woman like a human being, like the suave scheister I am, not like a desperate schoolboy (I'm a face/tits/ass/leg man - yeah, I like 9s and 10s only).

They call it 'game' for a reason dude. You gotta play a while for the prize you're after, whatever it might be.
 

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In general it's not a good idea to start out complimenting on physical attributes, esp the 9's and 10's who already know this. You may think it's flattering, but she's sick of guys complimenting her a$$ and legs and b00bs and body, knowing they're just trying to get in her pants.

If you're going to compliment her, make it something like her smile or the way she carries herself, or her shoes or tell her she looks "interesting". Hell, i'd even prefer a good neg or tongue in cheek ****y teasing over a straight compliment.

I feel your pain. When we see a gorgeous woman, the irrational side of us takes over and the first thing we want to blurt out is how fvcking beautiful she is. It feels like a good idea, but it's never successful. You have to resist this urge.
 

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Thanks for reminding me to hold my horses bros.

yea its a game and furthermore its a reminder that I gotta keep my stable full so I'm not lusting over a beautiful pair of legs.
 

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gravityeyelids said:
In general it's not a good idea to start out complimenting on physical attributes, esp the 9's and 10's who already know this. You may think it's flattering, but she's sick of guys complimenting her a$$ and legs and b00bs and body, knowing they're just trying to get in her pants.

If you're going to compliment her, make it something like her smile or the way she carries herself, or her shoes or tell her she looks "interesting". Hell, i'd even prefer a good neg or tongue in cheek ****y teasing over a straight compliment.

I feel your pain. When we see a gorgeous woman, the irrational side of us takes over and the first thing we want to blurt out is how fvcking beautiful she is. It feels like a good idea, but it's never successful. You have to resist this urge.
Solid.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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If she's anything higher than a 7, Neg hitting her is your best option if you want to go that route. I don't like it either, but from all the compliments and attention from all these guys, attacking her ego isn't such a bad idea. If you can use your opponent against themselves, then do it. I think Sun Tzu said something like that in his book.
 

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If I've seen her for quite a while and she's been good for ages, and I see her looking particularly hot, I might use a bit of sarcasm like, 'Wow. You look awful today', or some such. I wouldn't ever qualify upon first meeting though. Or even in the first few meetings.

What we need to understand is that women are obsessed by appearance, because they know that male primal urges in this species are driven almost entirely driven by aesthetics. Therefore, once appreciation of a woman's aesthetics are qualified, she no longer has a challenge.

You only need to view social media, on a daily if not hourly basis, the way targets seek aesthetic qualification an the way beta-boys wantonly bow to that qualification. It makes me physically sick to see. These saps don't make life any easier for the rest of us.
 

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Most hot women hate compliments because its not congruent with what they think about themselves.

I wouldn't neg some random either. Your job is to create comfort. You are a complete stranger and its weird rocking up on the set like that. Once you create comfort, then you build on attraction and rapport. This is what I'm working on right now.

People will naturally be on guard when you enter their space, even our loved ones notice the space being opened up. Perhaps you could open from a distance, then move closer? I dont know, I might try this out tonight!
 
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If you got a 'take it or leave it' attitude then you can pretty much say anything you want (with a little cheeky smile of course).
 

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gravityeyelids +1

I only compliment women on things other than looks.

A man who can look past the "assets" of 9s/10s etc is perceived as a man who has had many experiences with such women.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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_sideways_ said:
I wanted to go up and compliment her on her dress first, then mention her great legs. She knows she has them and I like them.

physical compliments are useless because tons of men have already done it and there is no need to compliment a woman for something that was given to her.
 
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