"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Would you take dating advice from this woman?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMJS2k_vBY0

http://jezebel.com/5969902/dear-dudes-here-are-five-reasons-why-you-dont-need-a-dating-coach

Hello, muffins. Here at this site, we spend a lot of time railing against the ****ty **** that dudes do, because, come on, ****ty **** is ****ty. It's ****ty to act like women owe you attention and/or genital touching simply because you're noble enough to refrain from being an abusive ****-monster. It's ****ty to tell women that they're incompetent at handling their own lives, simply because their life choices don't include handling your genitals. It's ****ty to treat a woman like a math equation instead of a person, and then take her rejection as an outrageous wound to your personhood. Can we maybe agree that those behaviors—cornerstones of modern "pick-up" culture—are ****ty?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Dear Findog,
Would Montgomery have followed Rommels advice before El Alamain?
 

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No. She's not an authority on what women respond to. If anything she just sounds butthurt because she doesn't get the attention other women do who she knows are better looking than she is.

I sometimes wonder if feminism was really just a jealousy movement to have women that are good looking knocked down a peg to have to work & live life like non-attractive women do by way of removing their looks privilege. Demonizing male sexuality that values female physical attractiveness plays into this in a big way.

Start looking at feminists. And I mean really look at them and ask yourself is she hot, was she hot when she was younger, and where do you think she sits on a looks scale. I've seen maybe 2 in my life that were actually really hot. A few were hot in their youth, but when their looks faded then suddenly they "saw the light". Funny they didn't need feminism when they were still young and sexy, go figure.
 

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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Dominance said:
It took all of 10 seconds of the video of her for me to say "NO WAY!".

She's got a definate weird creepiness to her and i'd say has alot of problems with guys herself.
Call me shallow, but I didn't even bother playing the video and I just looked at the preview screen before youtube played the video for me to decide that she wasn't worth it to be doling out dating advice...

:crazy:
 

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Nutz said:
No. She's not an authority on what women respond to. If anything she just sounds butthurt because she doesn't get the attention other women do who she knows are better looking than she is.

I sometimes wonder if feminism was really just a jealousy movement to have women that are good looking knocked down a peg to have to work & live life like non-attractive women do by way of removing their looks privilege. Demonizing male sexuality that values female physical attractiveness plays into this in a big way.

Start looking at feminists. And I mean really look at them and ask yourself is she hot, was she hot when she was younger, and where do you think she sits on a looks scale. I've seen maybe 2 in my life that were actually really hot. A few were hot in their youth, but when their looks faded then suddenly they "saw the light". Funny they didn't need feminism when they were still young and sexy, go figure.
Point illustrated below:






 

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Call me shallow, but I didn't even bother playing the video and I just looked at the preview screen before youtube played the video for me to decide that she wasn't worth it to be doling out dating advice...
Haha I didn't see the preview because I was on another page while loading it.

I sometimes wonder if feminism was really just a jealousy movement to have women that are good looking knocked down a peg to have to work & live life like non-attractive women do by way of removing their looks privilege. Demonizing male sexuality that values female physical attractiveness plays into this in a big way.

Start looking at feminists. And I mean really look at them and ask yourself is she hot, was she hot when she was younger, and where do you think she sits on a looks scale. I've seen maybe 2 in my life that were actually really hot. A few were hot in their youth, but when their looks faded then suddenly they "saw the light". Funny they didn't need feminism when they were still young and sexy, go figure.
Yep it's VERY rare to see a good looking feminist, I was shocked when watching some Ali G to see him talking to a good looking feminist, first i've seen.

They all just have this jaded, wrinkly, angry ugly vibe and look. No wonder they are angry at men.
 

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It almost reads like a parody of what NOT to do when it comes to dating and women. The only useful thing she said was own your sh*t and don't blame women for your unhappiness.
 

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What happened to the NO FAT CHICKS rule

Clearly the only thing to win this fattie's heart is candy corn oreos
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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*video loads, fat chick pops up on screen*

Fat chick on the screen. Do not want.

*closes window*

Edit: Hahaha! Seems like I wasn't the only one! :crackup:
 

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Burroughs said:
What happened to the NO FAT CHICKS rule

Clearly the only thing to win this fattie's heart is candy corn oreos
I honestly don't understand what she's so worked up about. It's not like she would ever have to "suffer" the indignity of a PUA approaching her. Also, that's just stupid on her part to say that guys absolutely should not approach women during the day at a Starbucks, shopping mall or whatever. If a woman's not interested, you take your cue and move on, but I know more than one couple that met this way.
 

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Also, call me old fashioned, but it's a turn off when women drop that many cuss words. I don't mind it sprinkled in for effect, but saying "sh*tty" constantly, as well as other famous four letter words, is really unfeminine. So would I take advice from a woman who swears like a sailor? No.
Yeah it's funny, I swear a bit sometimes but when a girl i'm with follows and starts swearing it turns me off.
 

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I'm reminded of what Patrice said about this kind of thing - a woman telling a man how to get a woman, is like a fish telling a shark how to catch a fish.
 

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I know so many chics like her. And they always are with some spineless noodley armed loser.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I read that article and it seemed fine to me.
There were pretty common sense points and it didnt insult or offend me personally.

If there are men that can have the insight on what a woman's "problems" , issues, whatever, then there can be some women who might be able to identify patterns, and things that she can tell men about dating and the courtship behaviors.
Nothings foolproof or perfect of course. But there were certain important details in that article.
The smart man will look at all pieces of information, and wont let any pride or ego, or whatever presumed fallibility to discourage him from learning some answers.

If there are certain scientific answers to courtship rituals, etc,then assuming a scientific method of taking in all bits of information is important.
 

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I wouldn't take dating advice from any woman... period.
 
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