"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Would you rather be seen as creepy or as a wussy?

Would you rather come off as:

  • Creepy

    Votes: 20 95.2%
  • Wuss

    Votes: 1 4.8%

  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .

r0cky

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Ok you see a girl you like walking or sitting in the park or at bar or whatever.

If you approach her you run the risk of being seen as creepy

If you dont approach her you're building reference experience that you're a pu55y who can't approach the girls he likes.

Chose one.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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MM92

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This is unbelievably difficult. I think creepy but give me to the morning to think it through. Actually, rather be creepy. I think if you give it a go the lass would have a lot more respect for you, just my opinion/experience though.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
The classic Beta wuss vs Omega creep debate...I have elements of both in me unfortunately, but also alpha traits. Id rather be a creep but only if I wasnt ACTUALLY a creep, just approaching women way out of my league and they felt bad so called me one.
Whats the difference between being a creep and being called a creep?
Isnt creepiness subjective? Like if you did something that is considered creepy but you didnt know and nobody told you it was creepy, would you be considered a creep?
And i'snt creepiness just a mental label given by the judger? So what happens when there are no people to judge the behavior? Is it still creepy? And to whom?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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d!ckmojo

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I've been seen as both, but at least creepy is on the way to where you want to be. You start off as a wuss, you have to go through the stage of being creepy until you get your calibration right, then you're able to be just suave and you're a proper DJ.
 

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There are two types of creepy:

1. An awkward guy who is inappropriate towards or around women.

2. A guy who is otherwise normal, but not good looking to the woman. Instead of her admitting he's not attractive to her (and her risking sounding shallow), she calls him "creepy" as a smokescreen to make people believe she means #1. She wants others to BELIEVE she is rejecting him because of his awkwardness and poor social savy, not because of looks. That way, she's not "shallow"; he's just awkward creepy like #1.

So what does this mean to us guys? Well, #1 is fixable with experience. As you get more comfort and experience around women, you can take care of #1.
For #2, take reasonable steps to optimize your look. Work out, dress well, blah blah blah, etc.

If she still calls you creepy, too F-ing bad. Consider it a badge of honor at that point, because like the others said, this kind of creep can still get laid.
 

r0cky

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Wow. Almost 100% of people here would rather be seen as creepy. So why is it that almost everybody on this forum dreads cold aproaching?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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st_99

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a creep is on his way, just needs some fine tuning, a wuss still has a long way to go..
 

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Think of it like playing the Mega Millions Lottery.

A wuss buys no tickets. :down:

A creep buys one ticket. :up:

The creep has a better chance of winning, even if it is super slim.

I'd rather creep. That's my ruling.

Case closed.
 

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I almost exclusively cold approach. Been called creepy many times. Been laid many times. It comes with the territory.
 

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Creepy hands down. Creeps at least try. Better to regret something you did than something (or someone for that matter) you didn't do.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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r0cky

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shizz702 said:
Then you must be the guy who stays at home jerking off on saturday nights.
Dont give me none of that "I'll come off as a pimp" talk because even pimps run the risk of creeping girls out.
 
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