"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Would you/have you had sex with a girl that your friend had previously had sex with?

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ersit

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Surprisingly, this has come up a couple times in my life. Frankly, it weirds me out. I live in a very small town and I'm friends with someone who's spent the past several years sleeping with half of the women in it. So far I've turned down three girls almost specifically because he's had sex with them in the past.

Has anyone else ever experienced this? To me, at the very least, it kills a chance of an actual relationship with the girl. If she were attractive enough, I might go for just the sex...and definitely wear a condom.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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realsmoothie

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Uh, yeah. A few times.

Just try not to think about it when you're going down on her...
;)
 
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Nighthawk

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Meh, never bothered me. Worried you won't be as good as your friend? Or that you are sleeping with him by proxy, and that's a bit too gay?
 
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Exes of friends are off limits to me.

This is a minefield. And a good way to lose friends. Don´t listen to what they say, no matter if they split up years ago or in a huge fight - just don´t do it.

It it´s not an ex but strictly a one night stand - why not.
 
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Not exes, just former hookups/**** buddies/one night stands. The thought of it just grosses me out for some reason. What I usually do is simply never ask about a girl's past - however, I still seem to find out if they've had sex with this guy. It's to the point now where I'm suspicious of every girl I meet - have they had sex with that guy?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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If either of you both conceptualize it as competition, don't do it.

If done with camaraderie - like soldiers visiting a brothel - do it and high five him later.

Picture Animal Mother, Eightball and Miss "she give you numbah-one fookkee" from Full Metal Jacket.
 
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