You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I disagree. I flirt a lot of the time - its fun. Makes the day that bit brighter for both people.Men don't flirt.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Why not?Originally posted by DJDamage
Men don't flirt.
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Don't try your game on chicks you don't want to pick up, its counter productive.
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I feel the same way. I flirt so much it's just a part of my character. Like you I do it mainly because it feels good to make others feel good. Plus it's a key skill in being charismatic. It also makes it easier to hit on a HB if it's already a natural part of who you are.Originally posted by Triple X
I disagree. I flirt a lot of the time - its fun. Makes the day that bit brighter for both people.
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Why would you want to hit on chicks you are not intersted in? If you have got a problem with picking up chicks you are intersting in then this is counter productive. You should try picking up chicks you are attracted to so if you fail you will LEARN FROM THIS and then you will be able to go at it better the second time around until it becomes the norm.Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Why not?
You still haven't explained why it's counter productive. And in explaining that, explain why a DJ would choose to be a DJ with only certain people? Wouldn't this be counter productive in that if a guy isn't a complete DJ, he'd be just pretending to be one? And what's the difference between women you're attracted to as apposed to women you aren't? Aren't women just women, no matter what? What would be the difference in categorizing them? Wouldn't that be putting forth a ton of effort that could be a waste of time rather than just approaching and being your charming self? Which brings up another thing, what purpose would it serve not to market yourself completely? Everyone talks about social proof, why discriminate against someone who could put in a good word for you to her HB friends? Have you actually thought this out?Originally posted by DJDamage
Why would you want to hit on chicks you are not intersted in? If you have got a problem with picking up chicks you are intersting in then this is counter productive. You should try picking up chicks you are attracted to so if you fail you will LEARN FROM THIS and then you will be able to go at it better the second time around until it becomes the norm.
Being comfertable around unattractive chicks does not change anything.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Counterproductive definition - "Tending to hinder rather than serve one's purpose."Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
You still haven't explained why it's counter productive. And in explaining that, explain why a DJ would choose to be a DJ with only certain people? Wouldn't this be counter productive in that if a guy isn't a complete DJ, he'd be just pretending to be one? And what's the difference between women you're attracted to as apposed to women you aren't? Aren't women just women, no matter what?
We always put the women into different catagories: ATTRACTIVE AND UNATTRACTIVE. Its true that when you are a DJ, it shouldn't matter of how you treat them UNLESS YOU ARE SERIOUSLY TRYING TO RAISE INTEREST LEVEL FOR THE SOUL PURPOSE OF DATING THEM, then of coarse you would treat them differently. I doubt you can control your brain from flooding you with images of you wanting to fvck her or control the increase beating of your heart, in your mind you are already treating her differently.Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
What would be the difference in categorizing them? Wouldn't that be putting forth a ton of effort that could be a waste of time rather than just approaching and being your charming self? Which brings up another thing, what purpose would it serve not to market yourself completely? Everyone talks about social proof, why discriminate against someone who could put in a good word for you to her HB friends? Have you actually thought this out?
AD-Women are almost always the true initiators, not the man. She initiates, you respond. She volleys hints for you to approach, you approach. (Or, she gravitates towards you, you talk). She flirts, you ask her out. Bada bing!
Survivor -Flirting was invented by women as an attention-seeking device. Society tells a woman that it is improper to ask a man out. So women flirt to get your attention to let you know, non verbally, of their ROMANTIC interest in you.
It is not necessary for a man to flirt. He doesn't have to 'telegraph' his romantic interest . That's because HE does the asking out. Men are very confused in this area. Flirting is for women.
You 'telegraph' your romantic interest in a woman by asking for her HOME phone number. That is the male 'flirting' so to speak.
When you ask for the number she will automatically know you are interested in her romantically.
If you don't ask, you are in danger of falling in the friend zone. That's because you didn't 'flirt' by asking for the number.
You didn't let her know your true feelings: To ask her out.
In conculsion, if you have no problems talking to everyone then you can "flirt" with every chick you meet regardless if you are attracted to her or not If however you are inexperienced with gaming attractive women and you are selective in your "flirting" then don't do it.I don't think you all get the jist of what Anti-Dump was trying to state. While he did say that he was against flirting, read his entire reply and you'll comprehend that he was only against it for the sake "telegraphing" romantic interest.
Flirting and kino are fine, but only if its a genuine part of your personality, and not just some empty tactic used for the slim hope that her IL will raise. In the case of flirting and kinoing just to impress a girl, Anti-Dump was right. Flirting would just be another form of supplication.
However, if you develop yourself such that you are naturally open and comfortable with women, kino and flirting become apart of your true personality, and is not just some "weapon in your DJ arsenal". Women can tell the difference.
I don't think AD was against flirting, but rather against tactical flirting just for sake of impressing women. Whether or not you follow AD's advice depends alot on your level of experience and your ability to control your own emotions.
So you're saying if you are inexperienced and unsure about yourself and your DJ skills, you should practice approaching attractive women even though they probably make you nervous and the chances of rejection is high and you would probably get embarrassed with the rejection. No big deal, right?Originally posted by DJDamage
...In conculsion, if you have no problems talking to everyone then you can "flirt" with every chick you meet regardless if you are attracted to her or not If however you are inexperienced with gaming attractive women and you are selective in your "flirting" then don't do it.
Will approaching unattractive women give you experience? yes if you can't attract anything with two legs. Will that experience transcent into attracting women who the same individual find attractive?? no.Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
So you're saying if you are inexperienced and unsure about yourself and your DJ skills, you should practice approaching attractive women even though they probably make you nervous and the chances of rejection is high and you would probably get embarrassed with the rejection. No big deal, right?
Does anyone else believe this?Originally posted by DJDamage
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Rejection by a hot chick is better then an acceptence by an unattractive chick because it will keep you motivated to try your best. You already know that you are not really trying with an unattractive chick and you are faking it , progress is not made.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
That only happens to guys that every woman that gives him a second look is obviously interested in him. You're just talking about guys that have delusions of reality. Not everyone can be satisfied with a little harmless flirting. It's probably because they wear their hearts on their sleeves.Originally posted by Fatality
and then when some girl flirts with you guys for fun you come crying about how much you hate women![]()
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.