"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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would you date a girl with kids?

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Dated a few hott MILF's back in the states. Having kids brought them down to my level and it was worth the trouble. Living in Philippines now and a 40-ish guy like me doesn't have to compromise at all. Hmmmmm 18-20 year old virgin or 25 year old single mother? lol
 

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Drdeee said:
If you ever marry a girl like that those kids will be yours, and if you ever divorce her, you'd pay child support for them. Plus there is no telling she wouldn't make 3rd 4th and 5th kids with other guys while with you. Bad catch.
Wrong, only if you were to be such a beta that you would adopt her kids would you be liable for child support. Of course, you could be on the hook for maintaining her in the style she has been accustomed to (but that only seems to be an issue if you are loaded with cash.) But of course, if you were to be the legal father of a future child - which obviously could be actually yours, or some other man's, if she were to cuckold you and you were not able to prove paternity within the proper time frame - then you would be on the hook for that child, and your child support obligation would be determined by the total need of your child, which would probably be a bit more than it would be had she not already have kids. :kick:

In general though, I have to wonder - what the f@#$ are you thinking? :eek: Are you so horny that your inability to snare a proper maiden is making you consider a mommy?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Robert28 said:
yes even the widows. i tried it and it blew up in my face big time! lesson learned. look at it this way, it's hard enough competing with some baby daddy who's alive and isn't in the pic....now try competing with a guy whos dead and shes still in love with, combined with mourning over him. trust me, everything you do or dont do will remind her of the dead guy, she will always compare him to you and you will always lose because shes emotionally connected to him in a different way then if he was alive and "making her life hell". she will never get over the dead guy.....ever.........................EVER.
I don't think your assessment is totally correct. I have to think that the older widows (i.e., the classic widow of and old man) that are looking for a man don't have such an attitude. The ones that do have such an attitude will not be looking for a man.

Now as for younger women who have kids to take care of, I can definitely see such a woman who still loves her man and sees her children from him as his legacy will go into super "look for a beta provider" mode. However, as such a woman would be basically prostituting herself (supply sex for provisioning) even more so than the standard single mommy, I tend to think that she will be highly motivated to keep a good stepdad around (i.e., she could be the best girlfriend experience 'ho around), and would probably go as far as to allow a beta's inferior sp3rm to fertilize her egg to help seal the deal.

I think if a man is going to go the beta stepdad route, a widow could be a better option - just don't have a kid with her if you don't want to (which of course, could only be done if the man were to get a vasectomy as a women always seem to have "accidents.")
 
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