"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
would you date a girl with kids?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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Wrong, only if you were to be such a beta that you would adopt her kids would you be liable for child support. Of course, you could be on the hook for maintaining her in the style she has been accustomed to (but that only seems to be an issue if you are loaded with cash.) But of course, if you were to be the legal father of a future child - which obviously could be actually yours, or some other man's, if she were to cuckold you and you were not able to prove paternity within the proper time frame - then you would be on the hook for that child, and your child support obligation would be determined by the total need of your child, which would probably be a bit more than it would be had she not already have kids. :kick:Drdeee said:
In general though, I have to wonder - what the f@#$ are you thinking?
Are you so horny that your inability to snare a proper maiden is making you consider a mommy?"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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I don't think your assessment is totally correct. I have to think that the older widows (i.e., the classic widow of and old man) that are looking for a man don't have such an attitude. The ones that do have such an attitude will not be looking for a man.Robert28 said:
Now as for younger women who have kids to take care of, I can definitely see such a woman who still loves her man and sees her children from him as his legacy will go into super "look for a beta provider" mode. However, as such a woman would be basically prostituting herself (supply sex for provisioning) even more so than the standard single mommy, I tend to think that she will be highly motivated to keep a good stepdad around (i.e., she could be the best girlfriend experience 'ho around), and would probably go as far as to allow a beta's inferior sp3rm to fertilize her egg to help seal the deal.
I think if a man is going to go the beta stepdad route, a widow could be a better option - just don't have a kid with her if you don't want to (which of course, could only be done if the man were to get a vasectomy as a women always seem to have "accidents.")