"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Would you date a girl who checks all the boxes except her body?

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I went on a date with an African immigrant who was super based, similar values, classy, attractive face with little makeup, sexy French accent, super close with family, green flags all around.

Let me be clear though, I don't mean fat, her upper body is slim, but her hips/butt/thigh area was almost certainly "big boned" on a genetic level. I didn't get a good look on the date, but later I saw a gym selfie of her and that area looked big enough to scare 99.99% of white men away. Now, I like thick girls way more than any white man should, but even for me, it may have been a bit too much. Then again it might have been the angle, she may have lost weight...she looked acceptably thick on the date from what I briefly saw.

I've been torn on this for days. Have you guys ever dealt with this? I think if you have to question it at all it probably means it's not worth it. I'm just disappointed.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Have her wear a bag over her lower torso? You can always cut a hole.

burlap sacks

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Have her wear a bag over her lower torso? You can always cut a hole.

burlap sacks

edit - not an affiliate.
Believe it or not the biggest issue I have isn't even visual it's all that mass gets in the way of *****. A petite girl's ***** will always have a way closer grip and increased feel. If they're bigger, you're mostly just ****ing the cushioning and there's almost no sensation, no thx.
 

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There's a saying "Women don't change, they only become more so.", that includes that woman's ass.

.... but if you ain't down with da booty, why you messin' with a sista?
 

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Believe it or not the biggest issue I have isn't even visual it's all that mass gets in the way of *****. A petite girl's ***** will always have a way closer grip and increased feel. If they're bigger, you're mostly just ****ing the cushioning and there's almost no sensation, no thx.
Your hips should do the work, not your hands. Cushioning getting in the way sucks.
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Your hips should do the work, not your hands.
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There's a saying "Women don't change, they only become more so.", that includes that woman's ass.

.... but if you ain't down with da booty, why you messin' with a sista?
I like black women, but the ones I've been with were tall and slim. But again, I do like thick women...for instance, I wb this chick all day. Pretty sure the black girl is about the same thickness in her lower half... but her upper body definitely isn't that tiny in proportion.
 

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I went on a date with an African immigrant who was super based, similar values, classy, attractive face with little makeup, sexy French accent, super close with family, green flags all around.

Let me be clear though, I don't mean fat, her upper body is slim, but her hips/butt/thigh area was almost certainly "big boned" on a genetic level. I didn't get a good look on the date, but later I saw a gym selfie of her and that area looked big enough to scare 99.99% of white men away. Now, I like thick girls way more than any white man should, but even for me, it may have been a bit too much. Then again it might have been the angle, she may have lost weight...she looked acceptably thick on the date from what I briefly saw.

I've been torn on this for days. Have you guys ever dealt with this? I think if you have to question it at all it probably means it's not worth it. I'm just disappointed.
We would all be happily married with 2.5 kids right now if we all dated the slightly chubby girl with the great personality. This is Gods joke on men. All the cool girls are not that hot. No, I would not date. You will not be proud of showing her off and it will show.
 

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I like black women, but the ones I've been with were tall and slim. But again, I do like thick women...for instance, I wb this chick all day. Pretty sure the black girl is about the same thickness in her lower half... but her upper body definitely isn't that tiny in proportion.
Wait is that her in the picture?? If it is then she is fire. Hell yeh date her. She is hot.
 

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Wait is that her in the picture?? If it is then she is fire. Hell yeh date her. She is hot.
No lol, if that was her I wouldn't have made this topic.
 

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No lol, if that was her I wouldn't have made this topic.
Yeh I figured but by then I could not erase my post. Bro I would not date her because she will get fat. I am basically an African immigrant kid and trust me our women do not like to use the gym. I assume you are white so she may use it for you lol
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Yeh I figured but by then I could not erase my post. Bro I would not date her because she will get fat. I am basically an African immigrant kid and trust me our women do not like to use the gym. I assume you are white so she may use it for you lol
She exercises and she's in her late 20s so if she was going to balloon up more she probably would have by now. I have never met a girl who I liked as much personality wise though. She makes a decent living from a well off family anyway it's not like she's poor.

There's something about black girls, I guess it's the novelty. I want a GF from every ethnicity.
 

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I just can't do it. Some things are okay with me: single mom, a little bit going on in the stomach area, but overall needs to be in good shape. Any fatness otherwise is just pretty much a no deal.

I guess it's the novelty. I want a GF from every ethnicity.
However, I get that. Sometimes you can trick your brain..."when in Rome" type of thing.
 

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No...I'd date a woman with a nice body and a so so face over a nice face and a so so body.

If she takes care of herself, she will look great naked for many years...if she doesn't, she can turn into a whale quickly and her face will go downhill just as quick.
 

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I like black women, but the ones I've been with were tall and slim. But again, I do like thick women...for instance, I wb this chick all day. Pretty sure the black girl is about the same thickness in her lower half... but her upper body definitely isn't that tiny in proportion.
You are being too picky is my opinion.
Too shallow as well, not that there is anything wrong with that

A lot of babes with bigger hips like that are realistic women who make guys content to be around

you also point out if you are a slim white guy surely there is something physically awkward about those bigger hips. Trust your instincts.

but I also believe in that old school saying:
“If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife.
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.”

These monster hip girls: it’s something I’d never do myself because i am shallow, judgemental and I am selective about fine womens bodies are important to me

But at one point in my life I dated a babe with big hips, she was very cool to me.
 

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It's easy to get sucked in on the group-think around here (ie; a man is an example of the woman he's with etc..). Don't follow the herd mentality. Make your own path and choose your personal delights.

Personally speaking, it's very rare (actually, I wish it was more common) to meet a girl ... and after leaving, you think to yourself "I have no idea how her entire shape looks." At least for me, this indicates that things clicked so well... that I didn't simply slide into 'default' mode. I've gone out with approx 150-175 women (but only slept with about half). I've only met maybe five or so that captivated my interest so much that I didn't scope out their body upon first meeting.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Hi Hamilton,
"Would you date a Woman Who ticks all the boxes except body"Definitely not.
African Women are usually Bulimic they grow huge after they pump out a few sprogs.
 

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This is the farthest from reality I can think of.
From what I've observed, most women start ballooning up in their early 20s or late 20s, usually from college stress or "career" stress and years of alcoholism. It's pretty rare for someone who's fit in their 30s to NOT have been into fitness/nutrition in their 20s.

The people who get fatter in their 30s+ are the ones who never cared about their health in the first place.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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