"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Would you ask for your stuff back?

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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TheMonkeyKing

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Depends what you want back. You sounds bitter and want it back out of spite.
 

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I got my engagement ring back. Four years later.
 

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Off course I'll ask for it back. If it had a sentimental or monetary value attached.
 

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TheMonkeyKing said:
Depends what you want back. You sounds bitter and want it back out of spite.
Stuff of monetary value that you could resell..stuff u got her when together..now she left she should not have the privelidge
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Stuff you bought for her? like jewelry? (engagement ring excluded), why would you want it back? just to spite her?

Stuff like your belongings? you should

Stuff like joint owned (hopefully not a house), you could try.

It all comes down to the importance of the item to you rather than the satisfaction of hurting the other person by taking it from them.

If you sincerely care for the items, get them. If you don't stop wasting time dwelling on past and begin your healing process. Regardless she's gone.
 

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stevo said:
Stuff you bought for her? like jewelry? (engagement ring excluded), why would you want it back? just to spite her?
Why should she want to keep it? Just to spite him?
 

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sylvester the cat said:
Why should she want to keep it? Just to spite him?
lol yeah why would she...? why would she want to keep the memories.?
 

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Agreed with Stevo.

-Gifts that you gave her (apart from engagement ring, or something of similar monetary value, e.g. car) should not be claimed back. I had a chick do this to me, which is incredibly spiteful and make you look like you were buying her affection, rather than simply giving to her because you wanted to (at the time, regardless of your feelings now).

-Mutually-owned items of significant monetary/sentimental value (car/pet dog/music/art) that you want or need for yourself, yes take back.

-Stuff that was yours anyway (car/pet dog/music/art) prior to being with her, or that you bought for yourself, yes, definitely take back. It's not hers and she can't argue otherwise.

Before you do, jus ask yourself what you want and why. Will having this stuff make your life better in the long run because you want or need it, even without her? Or do you just want an excuse to be in continued contact with her. Or do you just want to get back at her.
 

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TheMonkeyKing said:
Agreed with Stevo.

-Gifts that you gave her (apart from engagement ring, or something of similar monetary value, e.g. car) should not be claimed back. I had a chick do this to me, which is incredibly spiteful and make you look like you were buying her affection, rather than simply giving to her because you wanted to (at the time, regardless of your feelings now).

-Mutually-owned items of significant monetary/sentimental value (car/pet dog/music/art) that you want or need for yourself, yes take back.

-Stuff that was yours anyway (car/pet dog/music/art) prior to being with her, or that you bought for yourself, yes, definitely take back. It's not hers and she can't argue otherwise.

Before you do, jus ask yourself what you want and why. Will having this stuff make your life better in the long run because you want or need it, even without her? Or do you just want an excuse to be in continued contact with her. Or do you just want to get back at her.
Of course its spite...if she was wearing a timex before and now she has a Patek on a wrist...wouldnt you want it back?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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i misunderstood stevo when he said engagement ring excluded. i would never expect back stuff i gave as gifts. only the engagement ring.
 

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mikey2012 said:
How about a $40k patek?
an engagement ring signifies a bond between two people. when that bond is broken it would be the decent thing to hand the ring back to signify the bond is broken and the two people free to go their separate ways.

when you buy a $40k patek you are giving someone a gift from yourself as a symbol of your affection for them at the time with no obligation for the receiving party to give it back otherwise what kind of a symbol what it be if it were conditional? you are totally free to ask for it back but as possession is 9/10ths of the law it might prove difficult.
 

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mikey2012 said:
How about a $40k patek?
How about, why are you spending 40K on a watch, and why are you spending that much on a gift? F*ck that; if I was given that as a gift, I wouldn't want to give it back either. If I had that money, I wouldn't be so careless with it.

I would suggest you look in to your legal rights to revoke the gift; seems like unless you actually have some written conditions of giving, you may not have the right to reclaim. Any law bods in the house....? :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_(law)#Revocation

Finally, just because you have the cash, doesn't mean you have to spend it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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mikey2012 said:
How about a $40k patek?
Who in their right mind buys a woman who's not their mother or daughter or wife (even questionable, better be joint named) a $40,000 anything? that pussie must have taken you somewhere you've never been.

Ok seriously, I dont see myself buying anything that highly priced for a girl but if I did, with my present mind frame I would definitely ask for that back especially if I'm still making payments to pay it off. Lawd have mercy. But if I'm ricccch then I'd over look it.



sylvester the cat said:
i misunderstood stevo when he said engagement ring excluded. i would never expect back stuff i gave as gifts. only the engagement ring.
We on the same page now?:up: I definitely would not go back to take the bras I bought for a girl just because. .
 
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