Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Stuff of monetary value that you could resell..stuff u got her when together..now she left she should not have the privelidgeTheMonkeyKing said:Depends what you want back. You sounds bitter and want it back out of spite.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Why should she want to keep it? Just to spite him?stevo said:Stuff you bought for her? like jewelry? (engagement ring excluded), why would you want it back? just to spite her?
lol yeah why would she...? why would she want to keep the memories.?sylvester the cat said:Why should she want to keep it? Just to spite him?
Of course its spite...if she was wearing a timex before and now she has a Patek on a wrist...wouldnt you want it back?TheMonkeyKing said:Agreed with Stevo.
-Gifts that you gave her (apart from engagement ring, or something of similar monetary value, e.g. car) should not be claimed back. I had a chick do this to me, which is incredibly spiteful and make you look like you were buying her affection, rather than simply giving to her because you wanted to (at the time, regardless of your feelings now).
-Mutually-owned items of significant monetary/sentimental value (car/pet dog/music/art) that you want or need for yourself, yes take back.
-Stuff that was yours anyway (car/pet dog/music/art) prior to being with her, or that you bought for yourself, yes, definitely take back. It's not hers and she can't argue otherwise.
Before you do, jus ask yourself what you want and why. Will having this stuff make your life better in the long run because you want or need it, even without her? Or do you just want an excuse to be in continued contact with her. Or do you just want to get back at her.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
an engagement ring signifies a bond between two people. when that bond is broken it would be the decent thing to hand the ring back to signify the bond is broken and the two people free to go their separate ways.mikey2012 said:How about a $40k patek?
i won the lotto..why u careLiveYourDream said::crazy:
How about, why are you spending 40K on a watch, and why are you spending that much on a gift? F*ck that; if I was given that as a gift, I wouldn't want to give it back either. If I had that money, I wouldn't be so careless with it.mikey2012 said:How about a $40k patek?
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Who in their right mind buys a woman who's not their mother or daughter or wife (even questionable, better be joint named) a $40,000 anything? that pussie must have taken you somewhere you've never been.mikey2012 said:How about a $40k patek?
We on the same page now?sylvester the cat said:i misunderstood stevo when he said engagement ring excluded. i would never expect back stuff i gave as gifts. only the engagement ring.