"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Would you allow your girlfriend to live with a guy?

MM92

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Yeah, why not? If she wants to cheat on me she can go ahead. I'll just go find someone else.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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SamTheHobit

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Atom Smasher said:
The answer is a resounding "No".

Most women (especially in your age group) are mentally and emotionally incapable of resisting the emotions brought about by an orchestrated circumstance. If Mr. "Gay" (who I assure you, is not gay) orchestrates a circumstance, she will succumb as sure as I'm sitting here. All he has to do is chip away at her a little at a time, just like I do when I bag my own prey.

Never forget the mantra of the cheater: "It just happened".

Women need and crave authority from a man. They might perform a surface objection but it is better that a woman proves her loyalty to you by abiding by your boundaries than by being in a situation where she is living with another man.

Either one will vet her for who she is. If she doesn't respect your boundaries, then she should be history anyway. If she lives with this guy and something happens, of course she should be history. Which is a better scenario?

This is not a matter of petty jealousy; It is a matter of RESPECT. Fact: Women today are brought up with almost zero respect for men. Fact: Men are made to feel SHAME for setting boundaries such as this proposed living arrangement. You should not feel shame about this. If she desires to respect your wishes and abide by them, you have a real "catch" there. If not, she is not worthy of being in your life.

Do you really want to have her living with this guy, with you always wondering what she's doing? And then when you see her, intently looking at her for signs that something has happened?

Women today think they are entitled to do anything they want without consequence, and certainly without regard for a man's opinions and feelings. Is your girlfriend an exception to this? I hope so.

I would tell her how I feel about it, get her to see how she would feel if you were living with a woman, and if she respects you, great. If not, walk.

Edit: As I think about this, let me say that this is where the rubber meets the road for us men collectively. We're got to start raising our espectations, defining boundaries and parameters for our relationships, and define clear expectations. In this way a sociatal tipping point can be achieved where women learn that they either respect their men or be alone.
One of the best posts I've read on this forum.

Thanks for this.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
The answer is a resounding "No".

Most women (especially in your age group) are mentally and emotionally incapable of resisting the emotions brought about by an orchestrated circumstance. If Mr. "Gay" (who I assure you, is not gay) orchestrates a circumstance, she will succumb as sure as I'm sitting here. All he has to do is chip away at her a little at a time, just like I do when I bag my own prey.

Never forget the mantra of the cheater: "It just happened".

Women need and crave authority from a man. They might perform a surface objection but it is better that a woman proves her loyalty to you by abiding by your boundaries than by being in a situation where she is living with another man.

Either one will vet her for who she is. If she doesn't respect your boundaries, then she should be history anyway. If she lives with this guy and something happens, of course she should be history. Which is a better scenario?

This is not a matter of petty jealousy; It is a matter of RESPECT. Fact: Women today are brought up with almost zero respect for men. Fact: Men are made to feel SHAME for setting boundaries such as this proposed living arrangement. You should not feel shame about this. If she desires to respect your wishes and abide by them, you have a real "catch" there. If not, she is not worthy of being in your life.

Do you really want to have her living with this guy, with you always wondering what she's doing? And then when you see her, intently looking at her for signs that something has happened?

Women today think they are entitled to do anything they want without consequence, and certainly without regard for a man's opinions and feelings. Is your girlfriend an exception to this? I hope so.

I would tell her how I feel about it, get her to see how she would feel if you were living with a woman, and if she respects you, great. If not, walk.

Edit: As I think about this, let me say that this is where the rubber meets the road for us men collectively. We're got to start raising our espectations, defining boundaries and parameters for our relationships, and define clear expectations. In this way a sociatal tipping point can be achieved where women learn that they either respect their men or be alone.
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This..absolutely.
 

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SamTheHobit said:
So she's respecting you by co-inhabiting with another guy.

Good luck with this one.

The only girlfriend worth pursuing a relationship with are the the shy girls that don't party.
She doesn't party, doesn't drink, etc. So I'm usually pretty trusting because she's almost never in those situations to do something wrong.
 

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Thanks everybody. After discussions of the situation she told me she won't live with him even if there are no other options she'll find someone else to live with. Although I agree with the posts saying she'll resent me, guess I'll see where it goes.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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MrNiceGuy23 said:
Thanks everybody. After discussions of the situation she told me she won't live with him even if there are no other options she'll find someone else to live with. Although I agree with the posts saying she'll resent me, guess I'll see where it goes.
That would show crappy character on her behalf, so hopefully she won't. We can't all get what we want in life. Props for setting the boundary. Hope all remains well.
 
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