"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Worth messing with a 19 year old plate?

user252009

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I have a 19 year old plate potential that lives a few hours away but wants something casual with an older guy. I'm generally down for that, but she seems to be quite a liberal (a bit too lefty), but I think for some younger fun should be fine, wouldn't you say? She's a 4-5
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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corsica

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I get a boner by just imagining the word TEEN!

How can she be below average by being 19yo? Is she fat or ugly?


19yo girls are easy to train. I would go for it. Teach her how to do some freaky stuff that she'll never go back to a young guy again. Hopefully she'll tell her friends and so forth.
 

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I get a boner by just imagining the word TEEN!

How can she be below average by being 19yo? Is she fat or ugly?


19yo girls are easy to train. I would go for it. Teach her how to do some freaky stuff that she'll never go back to a young guy again. Hopefully she'll tell her friends and so forth.
She’s not fat but just a bit chubby, face is OK, average, I guess. Alright
 

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She's a 4 or a 5?.... Or 4 out of 5? Big difference
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I have a 19 year old plate potential that lives a few hours away but wants something casual with an older guy. I'm generally down for that, but she seems to be quite a liberal (a bit too lefty), but I think for some younger fun should be fine, wouldn't you say? She's a 4-5
A) if she is a plate why the hell do you care about politics? In general never bring politics up and if they do change the subject. Nothing good ever comes from any discourse on it. You are trying to fvck them not go to a rally with them.

B) A few hours away for a 4 or 5? C'mon man...what are we doing here?
 
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One reason why the number scale is so shoddy is that it isn’t clear if it adjusts for age or not. A perfectly average 19 year old (ie a 5) is a pretty fine thing — far above the general population average
 

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Oh I wouldn't travel there, she'd travel here lol
If she is coming to you why not? Personally, I don't see the point of driving past 30 minutes unless the chickis hot luckily 90% of women I meet come to my place since I have decent logistics being near the city
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Go for it if she's the one coming over. Also be careful not to get attached to this lefty, i.e., make sure you have other plates.
 

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OP, if she's coming over make sure you guys meet and fvck at a motel, not your house/apartment, for obvious reasons.

But, I agree with other members that unless you're too desperate, this doesn't sound like a good deal. I would hit the gym to release the tension instead.
 

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I’m not actively pursuing that one, I have 2-3 other plates going that are a bit older (late 20’s, early 30’s) and close to me too, good input fellas
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Too young. Too far away. 4-5. /10 ??? Pass
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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