"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Work friendzone/romance.. Is No contact the right thing to do?

lizardking82

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You didnt eliminate her, she eliminated herself. Get it?
This is all you need to know.

In other words "adviceplease", take this advice: give this chick 0 chances of having anything to do with you anymore because she is not WORTH YOUR TIME. You guys should learn to spend time with women who are willing to bang you, not dramatic ones and ones who won't bang.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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marmel75

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You are the attention giver that fills her needs while you get nothing back in return. Stop wasting your time and focus on other women. She's made things abundantly clear to you. If she was interested working together wouldnt have stopped her.

Only one of you thinks its anything more than friends and its not her.
 

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You want to fvck her and she wants to fvck other guys and be friends with you. Obviously, that is a problem.

Not sure what else I am missing but I know what you are missing- she is a work wh0re and you're not her type. No big deal, find one who is and doesnt work with you.

Both problems solved. When she wants to go do "friend" things with you, tell her that you have a chick that you are going to hang out with instead. "Sorry, busy tonight. Meeting up with a girl I've been talking to".

She messages you a few days later: Want to hang out Friday?
You: Not sure if I am hanging out with this new girl or not yet. I will let you know. (then dont let her know anything).

So go find a new chick to hang out with asap. Or two. Or three. Dont throw it in her face but if she asks you to hang out tell her the truth, which is that you have a date.

You didnt eliminate her, she eliminated herself. Get it?
Follow Glassguy's advices. They are VERY nice ones.

And, if you REALLY want to fvck this one girl - ignoring the problems involved: 1) she's working at the same place as you - 2) she do NOT like you enought - you will need to set a date, only you and her. If she do not accept, be distant and hard to find. The facebook thing really was a mess, you acted as a kid, but you can bypass this mistake. Last thing: go for another girls. You seen a little infartuated by this one, so go for many. Game on!
 

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Ok, so I should still be distant and just move on? I've been doing well in that department anyway. No one thinks I was being too harsh and that I misinterpreted it? I didn't make it clear I liked her originally, she's right on that but at the same time in person (the second time) she seemed to have her guard up anyway. Should I just follow what her actions show and not her words? She legit has been posting cryptic tweets (I assume about me now) and seemed unhappy. Also she heard that I was playing around with another co-worker (she would send me nudes and stuff) and apparently that made her hesistent.

You could be right that it's all a ploy for attention.
 

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Mirror her interest to you if you really want to. Glassguy gave you good advice.
If it were me and she asked me to hang out i would have said. Got other plans. 3 words thats it.
If she wants you bad enough she will find a way. Let her.
It's for a Christmas party. I don't think I'll go as I'm not well at the moment. I got to say, my game has been extremely weak with this girl.

I'll keep my contact low but just be more alpha/assertive from now on and see where it goes from there.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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