"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Woot! First date!

spax

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Woot! I used the text message game to organize a date with this girl I met a few nights ago.

We're having coffee and shes "helping me get gifts for my sisters/cousins" lol

Any advice?

It seriously like my first real date ever. :rock:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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spax

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Also, I am aiming for kiss. How can I play that in this scenario?

When i first see her, i plan to do cheek kiss, what else can I do to lead up to kiss?
 

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Coffee plus xmas shopping is a nice simple first date idea. Kudos.

Some simple guidelines:
- Be yourself but show your funny side, make her laugh and make sure she enjoys your company.
- Plenty of kino (touching, hugging, etc) whenever the opportunity presents itself. (Cheek kiss is a great start)
- If you two get on at all well, it is essential that you kiss her before the date ends. She will be expecting it (and will be insulted if you don't - trust me on this). Your job is to pluck up the courage to move in. It doesn't matter how, where or when. Just do it. If she likes you, she will kiss you back gratefully. If she resists, it's because she's just not into you.
 

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Dude thanks for psyching me up! lol


Could we just sit down somewhere like on a park bench, put my arm around her, then after a bit, kiss?
 

Stéphane

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spax said:
Dude thanks for psyching me up! lol


Could we just sit down somewhere like on a park bench, put my arm around her, then after a bit, kiss?
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but don't expect anything, because you will probably get disapointed.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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DON'T kiss her on the first date!

Take that pressure off yourself completely, its your first ever date with a girl and you REALLY, REALLY don't need it.

Simply concentrate on having a fun time, keep the conversation light and make her giggle.

'IF' shes interested she won't be put off that you didn't kiss her.

I have this vision of you trying so hard to see an opportunity to kiss her that you'll come across as completely nervous and awkward.

Relax, have fun and let things happen naturally.
 
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