"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Women with mom issues?

Robert28

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Something I’m noticing lately is I’m meeting more and more women that have admitted mom issues rather than daddy issues. Their parents are divorced or separated but they have a ton of resentment for their mother and not their father? What’s weirder is these same women were mostly raised by their mother! They will talk up their dad who they didn’t see much while growing up, but yet the claim they have issues with their mom who they see regularly?

I’ve met 3 girls that have mom issues back to back to back and I don’t see it talked about on here since we usually think avoid the ones with daddy issues.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Of course someone can have issues with either of their parents. I'm not sure either why we're talking about daddy issues all the time. Even when dad is the messed up parent it's no certainty that she's fvcked up because of it.

My GF isn't exactly happy about her father, but she handles it kinda like I handle my mother. Just ignore it and go about our lives. She could easily had the typical daddy issues, but she doesn't.

I'm guessing mommy issues could have similar symptoms, because it's not about the gender of the parent, it's the fact that one parent can't be trusted (as they should), isn't affectionate enough or is just downright toxic. It may fvck someone up, regardless of which parent it is or it could make them stronger.
 

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My last girl I was with ... her Mom comitt suicide 2 years ago.

Needless to say after the overcompensation first month of being perfect, she was pure poisen.
 

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I disagree with @gewd I think gender does matter here

Girls generally get on with fathers, while boys with mothers

I always saw that daughters had a natural rivalry with the mother

There's no rivalry with father, it's a simple case of guidance and protection

When that guidance and protection is absent you get Daddy Issues

Too much guidance and protection and you get Daddy's Girl

Mommy issues or Mommy's girl is usually more prevalent in boys

A lot of serial killers had Mommy issues for example

Freud worked a lot on this stuff

Naturally the feminists didn't like it so it never gets talked about
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Did any of these women have their own kids?
As soon as they do, they realise how hard it is to raise a kid and they tend to get along better with their mum after that.
 

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My mother chewed my sister’s up and down a lot. There’s resentment there I’m sure. Women KNOW women so I think it’s different.
 

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Do you know at what age it starts? I know... I live with a woman with 13 year old daughter. It starts at about 12.

12

Let it sink into you.
 
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