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I disagree with what you have said here. Go to any working class or poor US neighborhood and say that is feminine attitudes are high, you'd eat your words unless you were in a small midwestern town. As for non-elite schools, it depends in my experience too. Yeah, a community college or true state school with lower admission standards is prime for some fun chill girls. The worst ones tend to be those who get up high on the party lists, are private universities but not exactly Ivies, and are state schools with a lot of prestige to them (academically revered).

With those schools, I find that you get the worst kinds of girls. The snotty sorority girl kind that is a prude and thinks she is entitled to the select few 1% men, not even worth it to go after them. Often condescending, disrespectful, hypocritical, and validation hungry. Will go for rowdy type of guys who have a future career but are also the scumbag bully. Love to stir the pot as well.

The career type mindset is common in women of almost all races and only fails to exist in women of certain cultures.

Going back to the topic though, I find Jewish women to be very fun. A lot of them, even if they are very educated, tend to be rather chill and relaxed. Most take comfort in having a great time and even if they argue, you can argue back without really expecting trouble. I have had great experiences with them and so have most men I know.

Italian American women are generally a different animal. Most hang around scummy dudes of their own background that are white knights who will often attack you at the drop of a dime. A lot love to stir the pot as well. Many are snotty and prudish, often taking the slightest thing as an insult. On top of that, quite a few are power hungry and feel the need to constantly climb social ladders, stepping over people in the process. It seems to almost be a trait specific to them more than other cultures.

As mentioned in the thread though, it could be tamed and even non-existent if she grew up in a kinder area around kinder people, it kind of cools all of that down. But an Italian chick from Long Island, Jersey, or Staten Island? RUN LIKE HELL! Give me a Jewish woman who is a 6 over an Italian American chick who is a 10 any day if she is from those places.
 

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Yeah, a community college or true state school with lower admission standards is prime for some fun chill girls. The worst ones tend to be those who get up high on the party lists, are private universities but not exactly Ivies, and are state schools with a lot of prestige to them (academically revered).

With those schools, I find that you get the worst kinds of girls. The snotty sorority girl kind that is a prude and thinks she is entitled to the select few 1% men, not even worth it to go after them. Often condescending, disrespectful, hypocritical, and validation hungry. Will go for rowdy type of guys who have a future career but are also the scumbag bully. Love to stir the pot as well.

Going back to the topic though, I find Jewish women to be very fun. A lot of them, even if they are very educated, tend to be rather chill and relaxed. Most take comfort in having a great time and even if they argue, you can argue back without really expecting trouble. I have had great experiences with them and so have most men I know.

Italian American women are generally a different animal. Most hang around scummy dudes of their own background that are white knights who will often attack you at the drop of a dime. A lot love to stir the pot as well. Many are snotty and prudish, often taking the slightest thing as an insult.

As mentioned in the thread though, it could be tamed and even non-existent if she grew up in a kinder area around kinder people, it kind of cools all of that down. But an Italian chick from Long Island, Jersey, or Staten Island? RUN LIKE HELL! Give me a Jewish woman who is a 6 over an Italian American chick who is a 10 any day if she is from those places.
I went to a stronger public university with a sizable Greek system. What you described is exactly what I observed. The sorority women at my alma mater tended to be mega biatches who exhibited entitlement attitudes. They were often hot AF though. Very few Italian-American women at this school. More Jewish women were there. Jewish women, as expected, did not have nearly the same numbers as normal Christian women of Western European ancestry. The Jewish women usually weren't in the elite sororities at this school.

One of the upsides of Jewish women is that they tend to be attuned to their own sexuality. I like that. I just wouldn't put a ring on it. They might also have a shorter shelf life for a relationship. Then again, non-Jewish women are bad bets for putting a ring on it.

I've never dated in Long Island, New Jersey, or Staten Island. I could see some bad stuff happening there. I'm not sure if I would say that they needed to be avoided as a whole, but I'd have to live and date there to see it.

One of the other categories in the first post for women to avoid would be women with excessive tattoos. Italian-American women tend to like tattoos. Milllennial women (ages 24-38 now) tend to have a fair amount of tattoos. To me, anything above 2-3 tattoos is too many. Too many tattoos is usually bad news.
 
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I went to a stronger public university with a sizable Greek system. What you described is exactly what I observed. The sorority women at my alma mater tended to be mega biatches who exhibited entitlement attitudes. They were often hot AF though. Very few Italian-American women at this school. More Jewish women were there. Jewish women, as expected, did not have nearly the same numbers as normal Christian women of Western European ancestry. The Jewish women usually weren't in the elite sororities at this school.

One of the upsides of Jewish women is that they tend to be attuned to their own sexuality. I like that. I just wouldn't put a ring on it. They might also have a shorter shelf life for a relationship. Then again, non-Jewish women are bad bets for putting a ring on it.

I've never dated in Long Island, New Jersey, or Staten Island. I could see some bad stuff happening there. I'm not sure if I would say that they needed to be avoided as a whole, but I'd have to live and date there to see it.

One of the other categories in the first post for women to avoid would be women with excessive tattoos. Italian-American women tend to like tattoos. Milllennial women (ages 24-38 now) tend to have a fair amount of tattoos. To me, anything above 2-3 tattoos is too many. Too many tattoos is usually bad news.
Jewish women IMO make pretty decent LTR material when you compare them to other white girls. I will say this though, having dated a couple Italian American women before, they are as judgmental as it comes. Italian American women, due to the culture, are very shallow and image-oriented. Prototypical social ladder climbers who care a lot about image and how cool you are even well after high school. Italian American women never grow out of the high school popularity contest mindset. Now again, this is exclusively try for Italian American women from areas I mentioned, it might not be true of some girl that grew up mainly around other races.

Now this is true of Italian Americans in general though, moreso of the women.

Unlike their WASPy counterparts, especially the blonde popular girl types, who are similar in that regard; they do not value education as much. This is why you often find them at the schools which cost a lot but the admission requirement is low (aka prototypical party school for rich kids with a heavy Greek Life culture but reasonable admission standards).

The other issue with Italian American women is that eventually, you have to deal with their family or crowd in which the guys will undoubtedly be toxic and confrontational. Men are usually jealous all the time in that group and will try to pick fights with you. Plus, she is likely to have crazy, judgmental, and shallow family members.

Then on top of that, most are not hot. The hot ones can be fire but majority are hideous and don't age well.
 

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Jewish women IMO make pretty decent LTR material when you compare them to other white girls. I will say this though, having dated a couple Italian American women before, they are as judgmental as it comes. Italian American women, due to the culture, are very shallow and image-oriented. Prototypical social ladder climbers who care a lot about image and how cool you are even well after high school. Italian American women never grow out of the high school popularity contest mindset. Now again, this is exclusively try for Italian American women from areas I mentioned, it might not be true of some girl that grew up mainly around other races.

Now this is true of Italian Americans in general though, moreso of the women.

Unlike their WASPy counterparts, especially the blonde popular girl types, who are similar in that regard; they do not value education as much. This is why you often find them at the schools which cost a lot but the admission requirement is low (aka prototypical party school for rich kids with a heavy Greek Life culture but reasonable admission standards).

The other issue with Italian American women is that eventually, you have to deal with their family or crowd in which the guys will undoubtedly be toxic and confrontational. Men are usually jealous all the time in that group and will try to pick fights with you. Plus, she is likely to have crazy, judgmental, and shallow family members.

Then on top of that, most are not hot. The hot ones can be fire but majority are hideous and don't age well.
For the purposes of this response, I am going to put women into 4 categories based upon race/ethnicity.
1. White women of general European ancestry, typically Western European (Excludes Italian-Americans)
2. Italian-American women
3. Jewish women
4. Hispanic/Latina women

I am 37 years old. Since turning 18 and starting undergrad, I have lived in cities in Southern/Western U.S. states. That's 19 years of mating experience.

Over the years, most of my interactions have been with Group 1. Group 1 accounts for 90-95% of all interactions and ~95% of all bangs.

Group 4 (Latinas) are awesome. I wish I had more meaningful interactions within this group. The cities where I have resided post college have had sizable Latina populations. I've never really made significant inroads in this population. This is despite the fact that I am fluent in Spanish and have dark brown hair/dark eyes from my Southern Italian ancestry on my mom's side.

I haven't lived in places with large Jewish or Italian-American populations in my adult life.

My college, as mentioned earlier, was a public university that was a better than a typical public school. Greek Life was fairly strong. It was no t even close to Harvard or Yale environmentally or academically. Because it wasn't in the Northeast, girls were mostly Group 1. Even though the state's population with sizably Hispanic, Hispanic students were not common there. Jewish women were more common than Italian-Americans.

Both Group 1 and Group 3 don't make great long term partners. Group 4 probably has your best bets for long term partners. I've never married. I was open to the possibility of marriage in the past, but never got close to it in any of my relationships before deciding a few years ago that it wasn't a good idea to marry for me. I tend to think most relationships have a shelf life of being good that is a maximum of 5 years. I've never taken any of my relationships to the 5 year point.

You might be right that Italian-Americans in the Northeast are bad. In my region, they may be better.
 

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I think that the worst women of the Med world might come more from Spain than Italy. I've never gotten along well with them but it has been for the reasons that @Who Dares Win talks about. Argumentative, feisty for no reason, hypocrites, and want to be treated like princesses. TBH, I feel like latinas in general are overrated.
 

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Only women to avoid is fatties, uglies and those that have expired.

Why do you guys need to make things so complicated?
Because some groups have more of those and culture matters a great deal when dealing with women. Some cultures produce amazing women, others produce crappy ones.
 

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I've told you before and I'll tell you again now, lose that virginity.

It will change the outlook you have right now.
Hahaha lost it a long long time ago mate. Oh I know when I used to be just like you, so wet behind the ears and thinking the world was some just and laid back paradise like they taught me in school. Then I traveled, interacted with lots of people, different kinds of people, and realized how wrong I was. Go out there a bit, travel a bit after this COVID-19 thing dies down, sleep with different kinds of women, and then come told to daddy alright?
 

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This thread is astrology for men.
Once you get past the basic newspaper BS, you'll learn that astrology is actually quite legit. I mean real astrology, like natal charts and transits but you have to go deep down the rabbit hole for that.
 

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Hahaha lost it a long long time ago mate. Oh I know when I used to be just like you, so wet behind the ears and thinking the world was some just and laid back paradise like they taught me in school. Then I traveled, interacted with lots of people, different kinds of people, and realized how wrong I was. Go out there a bit, travel a bit after this COVID-19 thing dies down, sleep with different kinds of women, and then come told to daddy alright?
You might have travelled the world but you're a hyper nerd who is still a virgin.

Stop ur virtual fvcking of the girl in the computer screen and start getting laid for real, then all ur problems will miraculously disappear.
 

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This is so extreme imo. You can easily date most of these women casually/short term with minimal consequences. "Avoiding them at all costs" is far too strong a statement.

The only point on the list I might agree with you on is no.3. But even then, dealing with those types of women can be easier if you know how.
 

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great idea; I was wondering in another thread a week or two ago what a feminine woman is like----->the specific list of traits or characteristics to look for.
something I wrote a few years ago...
How to be an attractive woman

3/4/2016



Smile. Because you feel like it.

Wink

Call me by a nickname. Babe, Darlin’ Hon, Sweetie. Doesn’t matter

Be Happy

Believe in yourself

Tell people you believe in them

Keep your promises

Eliminate the words “I don’t care” from your vocabulary

Know what you want and be clear about it

Go after what you want

Dance in the kitchen

Compliment people around you

Introduce yourself to people around you

Be nice to strangers

Hug people

Smile because people like to see it.

Tell corny jokes

Laugh at bad jokes

Tell dirty jokes

Don’t be afraid to get dirty

Don’t be afraid to get dressed up

Tell me you love me
 

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something I wrote a few years ago...
How to be an attractive woman

3/4/2016



Smile. Because you feel like it.

Wink

Call me by a nickname. Babe, Darlin’ Hon, Sweetie. Doesn’t matter

Be Happy

Believe in yourself

Tell people you believe in them

Keep your promises

Eliminate the words “I don’t care” from your vocabulary

Know what you want and be clear about it

Go after what you want

Dance in the kitchen

Compliment people around you

Introduce yourself to people around you

Be nice to strangers

Hug people

Smile because people like to see it.

Tell corny jokes

Laugh at bad jokes

Tell dirty jokes

Don’t be afraid to get dirty

Don’t be afraid to get dressed up

Tell me you love me
awwww, beauty, that's wonderful Dear;)
 

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You might have travelled the world but you're a hyper nerd who is still a virgin.

Stop ur virtual fvcking of the girl in the computer screen and start getting laid for real, then all ur problems will miraculously disappear.
Oh man, middle schooler video game insults. Say what, how about you take a back seat, let grown men talk, and just observe? Not sure what world you live in but no, getting laid (even with beautiful women) does not make problems of life disappear. You'll find that once they two of em drop boy.
 

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I notice there is no thread on "Things to look for in women" and how to invest yourself in a good relationship.

Glad you mentioned that and no need to throw shade BTW.

I was going to make a thread on women that make for quality relationship material but that thread would have had far more disagreement than this one. The point is that people prefer the negativity on b1tching about women than being positive about them but I am going to make a positive thread.
 
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