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Hi fellow don juans. I just wanted to ask if this whole game thing is all worth it? Do you feel women have been spoiled over the years and no longer need men and if they no longer need men if thats the problem? What are your thoughts? Is chivalry dead like they say?
 

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Women are not overrated. They possess a vagina, and we need to stick our penis in it. Additionally, they need penis. Both sides need each other. It'd be nice if that was acknowledged on a broader cultural level. The sexes should be working collaboratively together for the benefit each other and the culture.

There's a bad mating environment out there. Prevalence of feminist theory and the growth of internet/technological advances (credit to @Lookatu for boiling it down to those primary factors in another discussion) are the two biggest factors in the lousy mating environment. Pretty much everything ties back to these 2 factors.

Game exists in order to satisfy our base physiological and psychological needs. Life is better when you are getting vag.
 

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As Dave Chappelle said:

Chivalry is dead, and women killed it.

Never have words rung truer than these.

You can still **** women, and they all still secretly want that fairytale happy ending idealistically, it’s just that they’re attracted to the dreamy skateboarded with long hair or the muscled badboy in a leather jacket so they’ll want to **** him instead lol. Just be that guy towards women and you’ll have tons of pussy for life. Then when you aren’t around them, be a driven to focus on your own stuff and just make money and improve your life and yourself.
 

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Women are not overrated. They possess a vagina, and we need to stick our penis in it. Additionally, they need penis. Both sides need each other. It'd be nice if that was acknowledged on a broader cultural level. The sexes should be working collaboratively together for the benefit each other and the culture.

There's a bad mating environment out there. Prevalence of feminist theory and the growth of internet/technological advances (credit to @Lookatu for boiling it down to those primary factors in another discussion) are the two biggest factors in the lousy mating environment. Pretty much everything ties back to these 2 factors.

Game exists in order to satisfy our base physiological and psychological needs. Life is better when you are getting vag.
I see
 

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Hi fellow don juans. I just wanted to ask if this whole game thing is all worth it? Do you feel women have been spoiled over the years and no longer need men and if they no longer need men if thats the problem? What are your thoughts? Is chivalry dead like they say?
It depends on your jawline and if you have enough money to fix it.
 

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They're like cats, elusive. The more you don't giveafvck about them, the more they want to come around, get closer to you. Then you can reach out and pet them. Try to pet them at first sight, and they run away like you're this big gorky oaf dumbas5 or loser. Not sure if cats remember you that way as well. I think they have short-term memory and you can ignore them and then they'll come around again.
 

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It depends on your risk propensity, stress tolerance, libido and need for approval (both self and external one).

It was worth for me till early mis 20s when I was still in my 20s not anymore now since those listed above all decreased especially tolerance to bvllsh1t.

Nowdays great if they are on my way at my terms but I aint gonna slow down to get one inside, let alone stop or change route.
 

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Hi fellow don juans. I just wanted to ask if this whole game thing is all worth it? Do you feel women have been spoiled over the years and no longer need men and if they no longer need men if thats the problem? What are your thoughts? Is chivalry dead like they say?
Women do need men. They say they don't, but they know they do. The problem stems from living in a society where they really don't face all that much in the way of threats and that coddles everyone into remaining as child-like as possible. Daddy can't protect you, so daddy government will do it instead.

Women who don't have a man will usually become very unhappy, especially as they age. This is why they all want to eventually settle down with a guy, even if that guy isn't great to them. This is why there are so many romantic comedies that end up in marriage as well.

All that said, you can find women who aren't spoiled.
 

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Women are not "overrated."

The problem is: 1) men place WAY too much emphasis on the importance of a woman in a man's life and 2) 97% of all guys, 15-95, have zero clue how to effectively interact with women.

So now you have hoards of men who are slobbering on themselves at the premise of a date and then have zero game once they do land the date. Hence, you have the rise of the Incel and MGTOW cultures. Rather than fixing what's wrong and improving themselves, it's sooooo much easier just to "blame women" for all their failures in life.

I've said it 1000x times on this site: Focus on YOU and YOUR GOALS as a MAN and see women as a SMALL (but tasty) side dish on your huge plate of food. Yes, they're there, and good to "eat" but certainly not the main course. You will actually become more attractive to women when you legitimately display the attitude you don't NEED them (IDGAF), but if they meet your standards, you can CHOOSE to spend time with them.

And STFU if you're one of the guys here who cry and whine about "Yeah, but only really good looking guys can get away with this mindset." BS, it applies to everyone.

Ingrain this mindset into yourself at the DNA level.

Dash
 

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Women are not "overrated."

The problem is: 1) men place WAY too much emphasis on the importance of a woman in a man's life and 2) 97% of all guys, 15-95, have zero clue how to effectively interact with women.

So now you have hoards of men who are slobbering on themselves at the premise of a date and then have zero game once they do land the date. Hence, you have the rise of the Incel and MGTOW cultures. Rather than fixing what's wrong and improving themselves, it's sooooo much easier just to "blame women" for all their failures in life.

I've said it 1000x times on this site: Focus on YOU and YOUR GOALS as a MAN and see women as a SMALL (but tasty) side dish on your huge plate of food. Yes, they're there, and good to "eat" but certainly not the main course. You will actually become more attractive to women when you legitimately display the attitude you don't NEED them (IDGAF), but if they meet your standards, you can CHOOSE to spend time with them.

And STFU if you're one of the guys here who cry and whine about "Yeah, but only really good looking guys can get away with this mindset." BS, it applies to everyone.

Ingrain this mindset into yourself at the DNA level.

Dash
I completely agree with your message especially the part about keeping women as a tasty side dish while pursuing your mission.

I just dont see how any of that can exist once you get married and she can make you miserable if you dare not to live according to her plans, I am all for speeding and stopping for no reason yet when you have a chain on your ankle it no longer depends on you...and no matter how strong your frame is the handcuffs of the police will be more if her lawyer suggests to come up with accusation before divorcing.

Lets say you are married and she decides that sex is over, what are you gonna do exactly?
I dont consider myself better then most of the men and if most of them are screwed once married I have strong reason to believe I'll be running the same risk.

About the last part, those who say that only hot guys can make it are wrong...there are plenty of guys like brad pitt or johhny depp that got fvcked up too.

I dont believe women are the problem, the problem is the environment (cultural and legal) where men and women interact nowdays.

Also keep in mind we both passed our mid 30s, guys in their 20s now are finding a completely different environment and people.
 

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Start a new involuntary celibate group for married people.
Im preaching for those men to become more player like. While cheating in the bible isn't good. In real life it often sparks interest in a wife who no longer could see him in a sexual light. She doesn't even have to know he got some from outside. She senses something in his "swag" which triggers her desire and competition anxiety.
 

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Actually in my 13 yrs of study i learned some of the wives were of a personality type that "need" to be occasionally cheated. "Happy wife happy life" turns them into selfish dictators. Some game and a man she can't control make a her act right. And a man who will take matters into his own hands if he's starved. When we are in the realm of power, control, desire and attraction there is no "moral high ground"
 

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Im preaching for those men to become more player like. While cheating in the bible isn't good. In real life it often sparks interest in a wife who no longer could see him in a sexual light. She doesn't even have to know he got some from outside. She senses something in his "swag" which triggers her desire and competition anxiety.
The problem with that is you can cheat with a prostitute/escort and use her money. She knows because her bank account is lower.
 

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The problem with that is you can cheat with a prostitute/escort and use her money. She knows because her bank account is lower.
The "cheating" will be better if the woman desired you. This is what your image needed.
 

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This is a fairy tale. The honey do list is for betas.
This is a conditioning by the feminine imperative and the truth is your girl wants to have boundries and you to dominate her. The fits and the threats are veiled smoke screens.
I have no idea, never been married so dont know whats good or bad inside that.

What is your experience, did you notice any change in her behaviour after the ring?

In my experience, the coronavirus has flattened the curve in the form of curbing female entitlement. Months of quarantine has made them desperate for male attention/affection.

I went to a hospital downtown for a checkup and walked around for a bit. My buying signals have increased by 50%. Even women walking extremely fast looking like they were late for work took the time to make flirtatious eye contact. AND I had a mask on.

I can smell it in the air. Female desperation. Whenever there is societal unrest, women become more easy and people have more babies. They don't have time to wait around for romance. They go out and get it. How do I know this? Because I used to be in the military where 100% of females were easy and even borderline desperate for masculine attention/affection. They are in an environment where the future is not guaranteed so their biological clocks accelerate past the norm.

Remember, women, by nature - are substance without form. They take on the consciousness of society. And right now society looks like it's about to implode. So their biological clock is on overdrive right now.

And women are also extremely reactive. Most of them are looking for their last hopes of romance.

It's not competition anxiety, but something even more powerful. It's straight up dread. The coronavirus inadvertently created dread game for most of us that are fairly attractive. There is a real fear of loss that women feel when it comes to their final chances to experience romance.

If you can't smell the desperation for male testosterone in the air, then you will probably never be able to read women. This is as obvious as it gets.

For women, their worse fears are dying before they can experience all that romance has to offer- because that's their number 1 passion. And covid-19 has put a major obstacle in the way.

And obstacles create more sexual tension.

Sexual tension used to be something we had to create. Now it's everywhere where men and women are in the same vicinity.

If anything, coronavirus is a perfect example of how scarcity can elevate female attraction through the roof.
I noticed something similar actually, the funny thing is that for me and my male friends its the other way around.

"We're gonna die" suggest us to take even more risks since we're fvcked anyway...I have friends who started a steroid cycle, I had overspeeded on the highway after they removed the regional limitations and we're all very active in the stock market since early april.
 
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The "cheating" will be better if the woman desired you. This is what your image needed.
But how would your own brain know the difference? Your mind just registers, woman, oxytocin hormone, etc..... memories are created, etc...
Unless you are a Chad, I don't think you can even cheat like that, but if you were a Chad you probably wouldn't marry in the first place.

If someone is incel/nearcel to begin with and they are betabuxing or get a noodlehor and made some arrangement with an ex-**** carousel rider then I agree, that's a doom scenario. If the man loses his job then that wife is gone. That's why you have the blackpill and why the incel will always say that most MGTOWS are incel's in denial because their SMV is so low that they end up in sh1tty scenarios like that in the first place. So your SMV has to be at a certain level for cheating to even exist, but I think it lowers even further when you are in a bad relationship/marriage. The wife knows you have a very low SMV and she has a higher one so she can treat the husband like crap. At least if you are single you still have self-respect.

I'm just saying, you presented a nice textbook blackpill scenario. Look at the statement "what your image needed" WHILE you are in a marriage? That shows marriage is not validating because you still need to cheat? Why just stay single then?
 

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But how would your own brain know the difference? Your mind just registers, woman, oxytocin hormone, etc..... memories are created, etc...
Unless you are a Chad, I don't think you can even cheat like that, but if you were a Chad you probably wouldn't marry in the first place.

If someone is incel/nearcel to begin with and they are betabuxing or get a noodlehor and made some arrangement with an ex-**** carousel rider then I agree, that's a doom scenario. If the man loses his job then that wife is gone. That's why you have the blackpill and why the incel will always say that most MGTOWS are incel's in denial because their SMV is so low that they end up in sh1tty scenarios like that in the first place. So your SMV has to be at a certain level for cheating to even exist, but I think it lowers even further when you are in a bad relationship/marriage. The wife knows you have a very low SMV and she has a higher one so she can treat the husband like crap. At least if you are single you still have self-respect.

I'm just saying, you presented a nice textbook blackpill scenario. Look at the statement "what your image needed" WHILE you are in a marriage? That shows marriage is not validating because you still need to cheat? Why just stay single then?
Well sir. Your brain will pick up on her actions. Aura and pheremones.

It be best for a man if he stuck himself into a bytch whose body was "in heat" for him. There's a scent in the air and you'll get harder and more excited.


You know how women stack male validation. Men should stack babes who desire him. Fat, skinny, education not much education thats how you need to be treated.
 

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Well sir. Your brain will pick up on her actions. Aura and pheremones.

It be best for a man if he stuck himself into a bytch whose body was "in heat" for him. There's a scent in the air and you'll get harder and more excited.


You know how women stack male validation. Men should stack babes who desire him. Fat, skinny, education not much education thats how you need to be treated.
That is not my experience. I've had woman who were hot for me, and I've also visited prostitute(s) so I can compare both experiences. The prostitutes have a better technique to get you hard fast and explode and are not rushing me as much to finish compared to my ex-wife and an stalkerish ex-gf. The stalkerish ex-gf is a fat Black woman who has Scizophrenea and an ugly face and an overall 3-4. Ex-wife I remember trying to get hard, but the equipment not working properly. She desired me but I could not deliver the goods and it overall didn't feel right. Like I really had to please her, my mind was there, but my body needed pills to respond.

With the hookers, I felt she was there to please me rather than the other way around and there is no strings attached beyond the money exchanged before anything took place. I didn't feel rushed, but did feel very anxious with the second one, but she relaxed next to me and let me do whatever outercourse with her. So, as a run of experience the hookers, especially if they looked hot or had a great body, felt better whether or not they actually desired me or not. However, the hookers felt too wild and insane and I took a spiritual hit, which didn't happen with the civvies. You can't have a nirvana sexual experience and expect to come down to earth and be the same afterwards. Something gets warped up.

Do you have a mental contrast between using civvies and hookers (i.e have you used both) or are you just talking without any personal experience to contrast both?
 
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