Yankee.Hotel.Foxtrot
Don Juan
Yeah it's true. Women do make moves. Some have guts and can be forward if they want you bad enough. Others will be as obvious as they can be without actually putting their egos on the line.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Women make moves when they ACTUALLY like you.
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Scrumtulescence
Master Don Juan
You idiots ever think that a women's propensity to approach or hit on a man isn't so much based on her looks as it is her confidence, personality and level of desperation and/or horniness?
Some here claim hot women never approach; others claim hot women approach them all the time. My guess is some of you are smelly, or just not that attractive, or put off a "don't talk to me" vibe. Whatever it is, reasons for women hitting on guys or not isn't as black and white as some of you make it seem.
Some here claim hot women never approach; others claim hot women approach them all the time. My guess is some of you are smelly, or just not that attractive, or put off a "don't talk to me" vibe. Whatever it is, reasons for women hitting on guys or not isn't as black and white as some of you make it seem.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Scrumtulescence said:
i think u guess r using women not approachin u as an excuse for your AFCness. ur using this theory to hide ur own fear of approachin her. ur like "oh she didnt approach me, but i like her, she must not like me so i dont have a chance at all with her so ill jus give up and go home to play WOW". u'll never get chicks if i jus sit around and wait for them to approach u. the guys that did get approached r jus lucky, or extremely sexy lol
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
DJ_in_making
Master Don Juan
how's this post any different from all those thousands of "If you're hot enough you'll get approached" posts?Mystery says himself that girls "rarely" act on their attraction. So how do you know if a girl wants to approach you but is just very shy? Does that not happen in your world? There are also many girls that I hear say "If a man isn't confident enough to approach me he doesn't deserve a shot" Get serious people stop being a bltch and do your job. Or you can just sit around and wait for girls to start hitting on you.... Oh and trust me, I get approached farily often, and I still say a MAJORITY of girls that like you won't approach you!
Oh and trust me, I get approached farily often, and I still say a MAJORITY of girls that like you won't approach you!Contrary to the belief that women want guys to approach them thats half true. The ones that dont have the confidence to approach the guy are very much limited to the choice of guys that DO approach her. Which she may or may not like, or make a struggle to lie to themselves that if they give them a chance they 'might' grow to like the guy.
as a result for us guys, PU/dating is a numbers game and flaking occurs no matter how smooth you think you may be.
So back to what i was saying, as much as they like (or dont like) to be approached by guys...Women would much prefer to chase a guy they actually do like. Or at least leave an indication/opening to the guy that they are open to dating them.
as a result for us guys, PU/dating is a numbers game and flaking occurs no matter how smooth you think you may be.
So back to what i was saying, as much as they like (or dont like) to be approached by guys...Women would much prefer to chase a guy they actually do like. Or at least leave an indication/opening to the guy that they are open to dating them.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
PeterNorthisawesome
Banned
This is actually quite true recently I've been a mansl*t at school and wow every girl I make eye-contact with approaches me, it actually gets a little annoying cuz even the ugly ones try to pick me up but since I'm not a complete a-hole I befriend them so I get to meet their hot friends later! In rare cases girls can actually ASK YOU OUT if they REALLY WANT YOU this happened to be 5 times.
so I get to meet their hot friends later! In rare cases girls can actually ASK YOU OUT if they REALLY WANT YOU this happened to be 5 times.Irish_Guy2
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I'd like to add my own experience to the discussion.
Last June I had my first kiss and also my first lay with a woman at the age of 22. The natural conclusion I'm sure many of you will reach is that I'm goddam ugly--however, I would consider myself attractive, intelligent blah blah blah, and blame my lack of experience squarely on the fact that I'm fundamentally a social loner. Anyway, that is neither here nor there, I'm just setting the context.
So, I'm in a pub/bar with a close friend one night, after playing in a poker tournament. Also there are two other guys he knows, not very high quality, which i can clearly see in the way they keep getting brushed off by any women they approach. So these two guys try to get talking to 3 French girls, and my friend and I sort of interject and take over the conversation. Two of the girls aren't really much to look at, but the third is very cute...slim, brunette about 5'5. I can tell immediately that there's chemistry between the brunnette and myself. However, my friend is telling me about this house game he's heard of, and in the meantime the three girls have drifted off to another part of the bar...which one might interpret as a sign of disinterest.
So, we leave the bar and are walking down the street, when we get a phone call saying where this poker game is on...completely on the other side of town. We decide to go back to the bar and see if we can find the french girls again. So, we return, and see them outside smoking...we get chatting, and it's quite obvious to everyone in the group that the brunnette and I have sort of paired up even though nothing as yet had happened, apart from some hand-holding.
Anyway, we convince them to come back to my friends house for some drinks, and to play cards. So basically that's what we did till 5 in the morning. At this point I had made no explicit move whatsoever, whereas the brunnette had run her hand up my thigh whilst sitting on a couch etc. Looking back I should have done the obvious thing and tried to isolate her, bring her outside for some "fresh air", but due to my inexperience I sort of just froze. So the three girls eventually make like they're leaving...and I'm thinking to myself damn what should I do. Even when they're at the front door, I still do nothing. But , praise be to God, as two of them are leaving, the brunnette turns to me and says "I'm tired", and walks back into the house...and we both go up to one of the bedrooms. After that things took their natural course
The few things I think to be learned from this are
(1) Women can be sexually aggressive too, even if they don't make the very, very first move of actually striking up conversation
(2) Experience counts for a lot...at least in terms of confidence. When all this was happening to me my gut was basically telling me the right things, but I lacked the confidence and courage to act on that instinct.
Last June I had my first kiss and also my first lay with a woman at the age of 22. The natural conclusion I'm sure many of you will reach is that I'm goddam ugly--however, I would consider myself attractive, intelligent blah blah blah, and blame my lack of experience squarely on the fact that I'm fundamentally a social loner. Anyway, that is neither here nor there, I'm just setting the context.
So, I'm in a pub/bar with a close friend one night, after playing in a poker tournament. Also there are two other guys he knows, not very high quality, which i can clearly see in the way they keep getting brushed off by any women they approach. So these two guys try to get talking to 3 French girls, and my friend and I sort of interject and take over the conversation. Two of the girls aren't really much to look at, but the third is very cute...slim, brunette about 5'5. I can tell immediately that there's chemistry between the brunnette and myself. However, my friend is telling me about this house game he's heard of, and in the meantime the three girls have drifted off to another part of the bar...which one might interpret as a sign of disinterest.
So, we leave the bar and are walking down the street, when we get a phone call saying where this poker game is on...completely on the other side of town. We decide to go back to the bar and see if we can find the french girls again. So, we return, and see them outside smoking...we get chatting, and it's quite obvious to everyone in the group that the brunnette and I have sort of paired up even though nothing as yet had happened, apart from some hand-holding.
Anyway, we convince them to come back to my friends house for some drinks, and to play cards. So basically that's what we did till 5 in the morning. At this point I had made no explicit move whatsoever, whereas the brunnette had run her hand up my thigh whilst sitting on a couch etc. Looking back I should have done the obvious thing and tried to isolate her, bring her outside for some "fresh air", but due to my inexperience I sort of just froze. So the three girls eventually make like they're leaving...and I'm thinking to myself damn what should I do. Even when they're at the front door, I still do nothing. But , praise be to God, as two of them are leaving, the brunnette turns to me and says "I'm tired", and walks back into the house...and we both go up to one of the bedrooms. After that things took their natural course
The few things I think to be learned from this are
(1) Women can be sexually aggressive too, even if they don't make the very, very first move of actually striking up conversation
(2) Experience counts for a lot...at least in terms of confidence. When all this was happening to me my gut was basically telling me the right things, but I lacked the confidence and courage to act on that instinct.