Women Love Orbiters But Isn't It A Waste of Their Time?

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Excuse my french, as TLDR. Why would a man hang around with a woman if there is no chance for sex? Is this a new phenomenon?
 

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i think thats why some 30 something single.ladies are so career driven thinking that it increase their value.

Ofc it applies to men also, but they have more control over thier fate.
I know the secret on how women can increase their value, but that has nothing to do with education or career. Cute face. Nice rack. Big butt. Thin waistline. Shouldn't too hard.
 

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The title say women love their orbiters. But do they really? I’m not so sure.

Assuming the guy isn’t gay, doesn’t she secretly think he’s a loser
I don't think they love their orbiters, but I don't believe they think they're losers either. How much validation can you get from a complete loser? For their validation to be worth something, they have to have SOME value.

I agree there is a power trip involved, as she can feel superior to the guy though. She might even enjoy torturing the poor schmuck.
 

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There’s one thing keeping men around for attention.

It’s another thing entirely to spin a web of deceit to give a man a false impression of potential through sophisticated lies and entrapment strategies just to get a kick out of letting them down.

These women exist. I met one and despite knowing all I know from here, fell into the trap.

I’ve been mugged, robbed, bullied. I’ve seen the world and experienced the rough end of it. I lost a wife to a horrible mental illness and had to move on, one of the hardest things anyone has to deal with, the guilt of leaving still stings.

Yet, nothing hit me as hard as the woman who made it her pet project in letting me down and privately humiliating me. She invested weeks and months of her life in this endeavour.

They are out there, watch the **** out
 

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i think thats why some 30 something single.ladies are so career driven thinking that it increase their value.

Ofc it applies to men also, but they have more control over thier fate.
Career driven women in their 30s think their money will attract higher value men. That is male thinking.

I am financially independent, what a woman does or makes in the year has no bearing on my interest level. I am looking at her attractiveness only. These masculine women that are "independent" and don't need no man are so hard to deal with. Lawyers, Engineers, Doctors...just not very feminine for the most part and that's what attracts me most. They all wear pant suits and even if they have long hair they tie it up.

Give me a feminine nurse that makes between 60 and 80k and I'm much happier. An independent woman is a dumped woman. An independent woman is a scorned woman. An independent woman is unhappy.
 

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Career driven women in their 30s think their money will attract higher value men. That is male thinking.

I am financially independent, what a woman does or makes in the year has no bearing on my interest level. I am looking at her attractiveness only. These masculine women that are "independent" and don't need no man are so hard to deal with. Lawyers, Engineers, Doctors...just not very feminine for the most part and that's what attracts me most. They all wear pant suits and even if they have long hair they tie it up.

Give me a feminine nurse that makes between 60 and 80k and I'm much happier. An independent woman is a dumped woman. An independent woman is a scorned woman. An independent woman is unhappy.
Those hardened masculine females want a powerful Alpha to brea
Here I am but y'all would dump me because I won't put out for a month or so (aka 'longer') - when I'm comfortable, have built trust with you, and know we are on the same page.

I'm just saying....
I could wait a month. In that time id have to see she likes me. Both our masks would need to fall.
 

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Those hardened masculine females want a powerful Alpha to brea
Most masculine females will never be happy in life, whether or not they have a masculine alpha or not. They have been conditioned to believe they are superior to men, so they always have to compete with their internal natural instincts. I think they will eventually default to their natural instincts, but they will always fight it and basically be forced to admit internally that they were wrong.

You see it a lot these days, at least where I live where there's a huge feminist presence. The worst ones are the "professional" women who surround themselves with male friends/orbiters and ugly female friends. Their egos are so massively boosted by feminism/men/ugly friends that they almost have to be masculine. And if you ever check her in front of her friends get ready for a **** storm headed your way as you basically attacked their alpha female.

Decent beta will suffice considering I'm no alpha and I'm messaged behind back of her boring boyfriend by such a woman right now.
What usually happens is these alpha females are forced to date betas so they can control him and toss him around in front of their friends. They do crave the bad boy (alpha male) so they will keep him hidden but still fux with him.

Overall it's just far better/easier to date women that embrace their feminine side.
 

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There's actually another girl I know with a very devoted orbiter. I rejected her and she's using him to try to make me jealous. She's attractive but she was a little too slow to warm up and she got left out in the game of musical chairs. I'll likely get back around to her at some point. She isn't the most interesting person in the world however.

What do you guys think about just asking these guys straight up: why are you wasting your time if you're not getting laid? Or even just telling them straight up what's going on. I'm curious what their response would be.
 
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There’s one thing keeping men around for attention.

It’s another thing entirely to spin a web of deceit to give a man a false impression of potential through sophisticated lies and entrapment strategies just to get a kick out of letting them down.


These women exist. I met one and despite knowing all I know from here, fell into the trap.

I’ve been mugged, robbed, bullied. I’ve seen the world and experienced the rough end of it. I lost a wife to a horrible mental illness and had to move on, one of the hardest things anyone has to deal with, the guilt of leaving still stings.

Yet, nothing hit me as hard as the woman who made it her pet project in letting me down and privately humiliating me. She invested weeks and months of her life in this endeavour.

They are out there, watch the **** out
I'm not sure if that's happening in the cases I mention. If anything the girl is giving every IOD in the book. She is avoiding eye contact, ignoring him, scrolling through her phone, etc. It's really the guy's fault for not picking up on these signs and moving on. Again, which is why I'm baffled: if she was so bored, why bother? Impossible to explain, really.
 

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