Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
As the man, I'm expected to risk rejection and approach her, get her number, and invite her on a date.timmylivingalie said:What if the chick is insisting on going to dinner?
a good rule that unfortunately is rarely followed by men.no dinner til she's sleeps with you
This is actually true. When an event is broadcasted in the mass media frequency of an event goes through the roof, including negative behaviors such as those in my Prooff283000 said:Because of this story I wouldn't be surprised if online dating gets a big boost. As in women on POF and other dating sites agreeing to go on dates more and more just for the meal with no intention of talking to the guy they went out with after the date is over. I'm sure it already happens now but to a lesser extent.
It means she's using you for a free dinner and you'll never see her again. An AFC and his money will soon be parted.timmylivingalie said:What if the chick is insisting on going to dinner?
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Thats because my male buddy is a "friend". A woman who you have just met and are taking out to dinner is not a friend...jafyk said:Can you guys give an honest answer to my question? Are there any of you who have chilled with a male buddy and paid for his drink? Sure some of you have right? So, to the poster saying hanging out with a woman as a friend bla bla bla...what's wrong if you choose to pay for her drink?
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I have some women friends that need help with their rent payment. Would you like to help them out since spending money on females makes you feel like such a man? LOL :flowers:jafyk said:Sometimes paying for the woman makes me feel like the man you know?
There is one big difference jafyk...when we give money to a male friend we are not trying to fvck him.jafyk said:Can you guys give an honest answer to my question? Are there any of you who have chilled with a male buddy and paid for his drink? Sure some of you have right? So, to the poster saying hanging out with a woman as a friend bla bla bla...what's wrong if you choose to pay for her drink?
J Roc said:Thats because my male buddy is a "friend". A woman who you have just met and are taking out to dinner is not a friend...
I have some women friends that need help with their rent payment. Would you like to help them out since spending money on females makes you feel like such a man? LOL :flowers:
"After spending lavishly, "You'd think a guy would try to kiss you or get something back," she said. "I have yet to hold hands or let someone put their arm around me.""jafyk said:Who knows maybe this girl sleeps with some of her dates. You can't say she doesn't have a sexual need as well.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
honest answer, yes. I'll buy friends anything, but its usually under the premise that ' I got this time, you get next'. I've done this with friends who are struggling financially too.jafyk said:Can you guys give an honest answer to my question? Are there any of you who have chilled with a male buddy and paid for his drink? Sure some of you have right? So, to the poster saying hanging out with a woman as a friend bla bla bla...what's wrong if you choose to pay for her drink?
Agreed. Paying for a beer or 3 amounts to what? $15 bucks? I can live with that.Espi said:In my opinion, there's nothing wrong whatsoever with paying for a drink or two.
The man is expected to pay--right or wrong, it's just the way it is. Many women latch on to this concept and play the traditional card--even though they're no longer adhering to traditional feminine values. it's just another way that women can manipulate men. It's a power thing.
Just man the fvuck up and pay for the drink(s).
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.