Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Women in their 30’s still trying to play the game.lol

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Recently this girl came back into my life after 2 years. We have a history but never dated, just sex and have some mutual friends and she goes and comes when she pleases and doesn’t stick around long which is fine. She randomly text me last night and was wanting to small talk so I just said “if you want to talk to me you know where I live, come over”. She sent some gif of a woman with a surprised look on her face which I never responded to because I thought it was stupid. This woman is 31 and using gifs for communication! Good Lord.

This morning she texts me “guess you’re upset about last night. That’s cool”. I thought about responding but didn’t see the point, it’s cute that she thinks I was so torn up over her not coming over and sending some weird gif for a response though lol It’s even cuter she’s still trying to play the game at this age.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Sounds like another typical hit the wall and is desperate.

Why are you posting this?
 

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IMO you're potentially letting a fwb escape.

Text get back a "?" And let her explain wtf she's taking about and take the conversation from there.

She thinks ur butthurt about get not coming over. You're not. But still try to get her out, isolate. She's interested, just not interested in being tagged as super easy. She'll come to you but you're going to have to be a bit smoother

IMO
 

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IMO you're potentially letting a fwb escape.

Text get back a "?" And let her explain wtf she's taking about and take the conversation from there.

She thinks ur butthurt about get not coming over. You're not. But still try to get her out, isolate. She's interested, just not interested in being tagged as super easy. She'll come to you but you're going to have to be a bit smoother

IMO
Lol
So you're telling me that all those girls who contacted me after so many months or years were actually FWB?)
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Lol
So you're telling me that all those girls who contacted me after so many months or years were actually FWB?)
Hmmm. Yeah.. I’m not sure how she could be a FWB. If she were she would have came right over and been ready to partake in said role. Sounds to me like she just wants the OP as an orbiter.
 

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Sounds like another typical hit the wall and is desperate.

Why are you posting this?
To share an example that just because women are about to hit the wall or have hit it, they will still play stupid games thinking they can still get away with it. This girl I mentioned is approaching the wall but still sexy. She’s a lot of trouble though, not really worth the fwb unless you have zero other options. I’ve known her for 8 years.
 

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Hmmm. Yeah.. I’m not sure how she could be a FWB. If she were she would have came right over and been ready to partake in said role. Sounds to me like she just wants the OP as an orbiter.
She’s been trying to make me an orbiter for years. She is into tall fat men (no joke), I am only 5’10 and I’m damn sure not fat.
 

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To share an example that just because women are about to hit the wall or have hit it, they will still play stupid games thinking they can still get away with it. This girl I mentioned is approaching the wall but still sexy. She’s a lot of trouble though, not really worth the fwb unless you have zero other options. I’ve known her for 8 years.
I've seen so many examples of this ad nauseum
 

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I've seen so many examples of this ad nauseum
Apparently guys aren’t learning, or enough aren’t, because women keep doing it no matter the age.lol
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Apparently guys aren’t learning, or enough aren’t, because women keep doing it no matter the age.lol
I like the idea of having a platform for giving women dating advice
 

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Lol
So you're telling me that all those girls who contacted me after so many months or years were actually FWB?)
Lol, generally YES - if you were FWB and they dropped off and are recontacting you, they are testing to see what the situation is.
You just have to be DJ enough to resurrect the arrangement, which requires finesse, which I assume you lack?

Seems to me you were too expectant-aggressive, which is fine because it's what you wanted, but it scared her off
 

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Recently this girl came back into my life after 2 years. We have a history but never dated, just sex and have some mutual friends and she goes and comes when she pleases and doesn’t stick around long which is fine. She randomly text me last night and was wanting to small talk so I just said “if you want to talk to me you know where I live, come over”. She sent some gif of a woman with a surprised look on her face which I never responded to because I thought it was stupid. This woman is 31 and using gifs for communication! Good Lord.

This morning she texts me “guess you’re upset about last night. That’s cool”. I thought about responding but didn’t see the point, it’s cute that she thinks I was so torn up over her not coming over and sending some weird gif for a response though lol It’s even cuter she’s still trying to play the game at this age.
Jakes on you kuz.

31 is cratered SMV. Meanwhile hotter girls are turning 18 19 20 21 every day.

Its your own fault giving any sort of attention to past prime nearly post wall. I think your testosterone needs to be checked.

This girl has been on the carousel for what 2 decades? She's closer to post wall than top form SMV 18-23.

Needless to say, you're not doing it right kuz.

I don't have the time nor the patience to directly troll said skank. It would be me pulling hotter and younger and her being trolled indirectly seeing me 30 pulling in front of her.


Attention and time is chick currency. Block and delete her. #nextSet

The best reaction is no reaction. Get baeees on top form. She's post wall and you pull barely legal. That's checkmate.
 

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Women learn the hard way that their annoying cutesy BS that men tolerate all day long when they are at their peak will get them nexted once they start hitting the wall and there are better alternatives out there.
Lol, he doesn't have any alternatives (that he mentioned)

Dudes be chasing away tail lolz
 

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If I'm being reached out to out of the blue by a woman whom I slept with in the past, it only means one thing. However like @sazc said, it doesn't mean she has to give up all self respect by abiding to commands like "if you want to talk, come over". Some you just have to give them the pointless small talk and then go for the kill.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Some you just have to give them the pointless small talk and then go for the kill.
Agreed however, at 30, i am disgusted and not interested in any level of investment or involvement for that matter. The juice is not worth the squeeze.

I don't comprehend the amount of time guys spend with women who have spent the last decades as a sexual commodity. Her fertility is nonexistent unless you consider retard or down syndrome ideal child bearing.
 

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Lol, generally YES - if you were FWB and they dropped off and are recontacting you, they are testing to see what the situation is.
You just have to be DJ enough to resurrect the arrangement, which requires finesse, which I assume you lack?

Seems to me you were too expectant-aggressive, which is fine because it's what you wanted, but it scared her off
Good observation. I'm flattered that you paid that much attention)
 

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If I'm being reached out to out of the blue by a woman whom I slept with in the past, it only means one thing. However like @sazc said, it doesn't mean she has to give up all self respect by abiding to commands like "if you want to talk, come over". Some you just have to give them the pointless small talk and then go for the kill.
The issue is that it can be hard to figure out who is DTF and who needs some small talk..
 

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Agreed however, at 30, i am disgusted and not interested in any level of investment or involvement for that matter. The juice is not worth the squeeze.
Umm, this thread isn't about you....
 

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Good observation. I'm flattered that you paid that much attention)
Don't be too flattered, it's not about paying you any particular 'amount of attention:, its called 'reading comprehension'
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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