Hello Friend,

If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

Women cant complete you. Kill the thirst

Lookatu

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 26, 2017
Messages
3,138
Reaction score
3,960
Age
51
have dated one or two lol...one of them also came from a bad family and talked a lot of sh!t later. Its pretty pathetic how rare they are.
Yeah they can be rare indeed. I've been fortunate to have been in a position to date quite a few. I don't know what it is about me or the vibe I give off to attract these types either. Just earlier this year, I dated a COO and I'm thinking what the hell does she possibly see in me. LOL
Weird thing about OLD for me, I don't match with 100's of gals like others but the ones I do match with, 80% of them turn into meeting for a date, 80% of them end up being decent chicks, and 40% of that turns into STR/LTR's...
 

Alvafe

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 26, 2012
Messages
3,371
Reaction score
1,567
Age
40
Look at this this way. How many women are buying d!ck pics on OnlyFans?
How many men are making a living by posting selfies of their butt on Instagram?
How many average male joes create a tinder account and get 1000 matches in a day?

The thirst is real, gentleman.
no one said is not, but saying woman don't need is wrong.

remember when a woman yell I wanna have sex in the street guys will pop from hell and they will even make a line if a woman is willing to give to everyone.

if a guy do the same he is lucky if 2 gays show up.

thing is woman when she need, she will find a guy, hence why most woman never really paid for having sex with men, but remember there is male prostitutes too and male gold diggers, who go after oldies, rich old ladies, is not because is not used a lot on main stream it means it don't exist, or common
 

Pandora

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 11, 2008
Messages
3,205
Reaction score
3,112
Age
38
no one said is not, but saying woman don't need is wrong.

remember when a woman yell I wanna have sex in the street guys will pop from hell and they will even make a line if a woman is willing to give to everyone.

if a guy do the same he is lucky if 2 gays show up.

thing is woman when she need, she will find a guy, hence why most woman never really paid for having sex with men, but remember there is male prostitutes too and male gold diggers, who go after oldies, rich old ladies, is not because is not used a lot on main stream it means it don't exist, or common
This is an interesting debate. There is evidence on both sides. I am leaning towards the side that states that men are much more sexually voracious than women. Lets look at this scientifically. Men make upwards of 10X the amount of testosterone than women. Testosterone is the main hormone that increases sex drive. Women on hormone replacement therapy ( post menopuasal and trans) report being very horny after the testosterone injections.

Women are selective with their sexual partners. If men had the sexual options of women they would not be selective at all. They would smash everything from a 5/10 to 10/10. Women also need a story line for pornographic films. Men are so horny that they fast forward the story line. We dont care. So in conclusion, men are most likely a lot more sexually voracious than women.

Pan87 is correct. As long as this imbalance exists, then men will be at a severe disadvantage in the dating market. The key is to control this urge. A mans greatest battle in life is his sexuality. A woman greatest battle is her emotionality.
 

daproest1

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Apr 26, 2019
Messages
310
Reaction score
115
Age
36
Haha anytime you try to tell men that we should find purpose outside of women someone says " who hurt you?".

My last relationship was not terrible. For an average looking guy i have done ok in the dating market. My issue is that dating never fullfilled me like pursuing my goals did.

I wish i had found martial arts much earlier in life. Even though i am not good at it i absolutely love it. This fulfulls me more than chasing women ever did.

Anytime you put fulfillment into any human beinf outside of yourself and God you will ve disappointed. You cant understand this because you are a woman and you are made to be validated by men. Men are different. We were never made to be validated by women.

Paradoxically, when you see obsessed with something the women magically show you in your life.

I need to get back to practicing guitar again. I want to be good at that but i have plateaued. Any guitar players private message me lets chat.
Lynx chat is a woman? So we have the old lady AND this one in here?
 

Spaz

Banned
Joined
Jan 14, 2018
Messages
8,441
Reaction score
6,932
Everyone has their version but what I mean by HQ is someone that has come from a good family and maintains a strong bond with them, has a good job, mentally stable, is not a protestor/hardcore feminist, is off or doesn't participate much in social media, has had long term relationships and is LTR oriented, has good positive role models/friends, etc.

I'm not talking about BPD Starbuck's barista's that's come from a broken home with depression/mental issues that our out there protesting, sleeping with every guy, seeking validation and control off OLD/social media, always drinking/smoking, don't know how to manage their finances, etc.
Every women CAN be either one, just put her in that environment and she'll be it.

So the quality comes from you as you INFLUENCE her direction.

As for those men who always cries being victims of BPD women, you'd ought to take a good hard look at those men 1st.
 

Blacksheep

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 6, 2018
Messages
1,526
Reaction score
1,047
Age
33
Location
Brazil
That's because ur society teaches their men to treat women as some sort of celebrity.

Because of that, women treats them like celebrities treats fans.

Now if only the men here (who claims red pilled maxxed) treats women as if they are their fans, then the women would treat them like celebrities.

Problem solved.
Thats true.

We were raised in this kind of environment and culture, just watch some movies and actually some recent movies and series. They sell this kind of idea plus feminism amd everything that is popular nowadays.

I think this can change when people stop to desire it. Like that classic sales quote: "People buy what they want, not what they need."

Until men and women do not evolve some kind of better awareness, this will keep hapenning over and over again.

I stop to think about some stuffs of this modern society... Humans are chasing so many nonsense stuffs, its not a surprise why we see all those crazy stuffs in the world.
 

Alvafe

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 26, 2012
Messages
3,371
Reaction score
1,567
Age
40
This is an interesting debate. There is evidence on both sides. I am leaning towards the side that states that men are much more sexually voracious than women. Lets look at this scientifically. Men make upwards of 10X the amount of testosterone than women. Testosterone is the main hormone that increases sex drive. Women on hormone replacement therapy ( post menopuasal and trans) report being very horny after the testosterone injections.

Women are selective with their sexual partners. If men had the sexual options of women they would not be selective at all. They would smash everything from a 5/10 to 10/10. Women also need a story line for pornographic films. Men are so horny that they fast forward the story line. We dont care. So in conclusion, men are most likely a lot more sexually voracious than women.

Pan87 is correct. As long as this imbalance exists, then men will be at a severe disadvantage in the dating market. The key is to control this urge. A mans greatest battle in life is his sexuality. A woman greatest battle is her emotionality.
hence why there is prostitutes and is called the oldest profession, but remember what sex really is, is validation, for both sides, remember what happen when a woman is negate sex, what everyone tells you, sex is validation, is confirmation of your SMV, and woman SMV perception is bloated, she will always belive she is higher then reality, and when that is proven she will lose it, hence again *****s exist.

most here belive the only validation woman get is from atencion, and is only half of it, the real validation is sex from a higher tier SMV, or is case of woman male
 

mrgoodstuff

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 27, 2015
Messages
17,936
Reaction score
12,146
Location
DFW, TX
Thats true.

We were raised in this kind of environment and culture, just watch some movies and actually some recent movies and series. They sell this kind of idea plus feminism amd everything that is popular nowadays.

I think this can change when people stop to desire it. Like that classic sales quote: "People buy what they want, not what they need."

Until men and women do not evolve some kind of better awareness, this will keep hapenning over and over again.

I stop to think about some stuffs of this modern society... Humans are chasing so many nonsense stuffs, its not a surprise why we see all those crazy stuffs in the world.
Right! People follow the trend. Not realizing much of it was "fluff"
 

Pandora

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 11, 2008
Messages
3,205
Reaction score
3,112
Age
38
Male need for sex and (ultimately) affection/love from a woman is the ultimate power imbalance.

To quote the cliche - Men are the true romantics and love idealistically. Woman are hypergamous and love opportunistically. Woman are attracted to men who don't care about them, Men are ultimately attracted to Women who they care about. It's irreconcilable. Nature is cruel.

Because of Government, Women don't need providers anymore and this was the traditional male leverage. Slut shaming (Hypergamy shaming) is also pretty much a crime now so women have unbridled power to pursue their sexual strategy.
Nicely put. When we say women love opportunistically what exactly do we mean? Do we mean she will trade you up the first chance she gets? Ive had girls who were so in "love" with me that it seems like they would never break up with me even if the bigger better deal came. Of course these were all short term relationships. I never got to the point 25 yrs down the road where she just falls of out "love" with me and divorce rapes me because of "reasons".

Would you agree that men "fu*k" opportunistically and that women love "opportunistically"?
 

mrgoodstuff

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 27, 2015
Messages
17,936
Reaction score
12,146
Location
DFW, TX
Nicely put. When we say women love opportunistically what exactly do we mean? Do we mean she will trade you up the first chance she gets? Ive had girls who were so in "love" with me that it seems like they would never break up with me even if the bigger better deal came. Of course these were all short term relationships. I never got to the point 25 yrs down the road where she just falls of out "love" with me and divorce rapes me because of "reasons".

Would you agree that men "fu*k" opportunistically and that women love "opportunistically"?
On this "opportunistically" thing with women, it all depends upon her mindset. More of todays women have a "ho" mindset entrenched, so even if they cover it up, it comes out and does what that does.
 

metalwater

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 23, 2019
Messages
1,648
Reaction score
1,351
Location
random
Every women CAN be either one, just put her in that environment and she'll be it.

So the quality comes from you as you INFLUENCE her direction.

As for those men who always cries being victims of BPD women, you'd ought to take a good hard look at those men 1st.
Often those men look at themselves also. Some hang themself, some break, some endure, some excel at something else as a result. They almost never can change but do grow new skills. If the top tier (public celebrity status) men have the issues and some more than average men then it is not about success or following a purpose as many of those same have done so and it is how they have reached fame.

A heart that desires love will fail, a heart that desires attention only can win because attention can be negotiated.

Cutting out the desire for love and goodness seems to be the only way. Become a bad person is a way to win this. This requires a change in personal codes. Seems RP teaches to hide the same, but it can not be hidden if strong; must be cut out and something else in its place.
 

Spaz

Banned
Joined
Jan 14, 2018
Messages
8,441
Reaction score
6,932
Often those men look at themselves also. Some hang themself, some break, some endure, some excel at something else as a result. They almost never can change but do grow new skills. If the top tier (public celebrity status) men have the issues and some more than average men then it is not about success or following a purpose as many of those same have done so and it is how they have reached fame.

A heart that desires love will fail, a heart that desires attention only can win because attention can be negotiated.

Cutting out the desire for love and goodness seems to be the only way. Become a bad person is a way to win this. This requires a change in personal codes. Seems RP teaches to hide the same, but it can not be hidden if strong; must be cut out and something else in its place.
Having a relationship with women is like a gamble.

If a man is willing to gamble then he must be willing to lose.

Problems you see on here is mostly men who can't accept losses but wants to gamble.

And that's why we hv moaners who can't stop talking abt mad women, BPD women and some other cope excuses which sometimes entertains us all but it gets irritating as time goes on.

Irritating because they claim red pill maximised but yet is such a loser.
 

DEEZEDBRAH

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 24, 2017
Messages
6,105
Reaction score
4,853
Age
33
We all have a void in our heart. It is an existential dissatisfaction that exists throughout our entire life. Its that underlying feeling of being incomplete. It doesn't go away no matter how materially successful we become. Some fill it with religion, spirituality or philosophy. Most fill it with the opposite sex.

Men think that this tiny emptiness can be filled by the unconditional love of a female. There may be some element of Oedipus complex mixed in there also. We go from romantic encounter to romantic encounter ( some go from failed marriage to failed marriage) but It never works. Its only when we fill this void ourselves that we can truly be free.

Many of my friends who I thought were alpha have become slaves to their woman. None of my friends have killed their thirst. So their thirst is killing them. I didn't even know that this was the dynamic at play until I was forced to kill my thirst. Now I see how enslaved I was. When I try to explain freedom to the other slaves they look at me perplexed. They are truly addicted to vagina. One friend used to be the illest white boy charmer I knew. He could smash a nun if you give him enough time. Now....he is tolerating the antics of a BPD going on 3 yrs. My other friend is financially successful but all he talks about is women and how to sleep with more women. Ive known each of these guys for over 14 yrs. Now I just dont fit it. I dont want to fit in.
The desire is there. The thing is that, as I get older, I am more focused on LEGACY than chasing ass. I still pursue but my purpose is at the forefront of my life.

To estimate the cost of the time spent approaching, learning game, pulling, and getting baeeee, it's brutal seeing the chips fall where they may. Getting girls is what our biology is looking for and hardwired to acquire. It is valueless. The only thing more valueless is not pulling.

Rounding third, heading towards 2021, legacy is what haunts me going forward. I cannot stress the importance. In retrospect, if I never learned game, divorce rape would have got me. The indoctrination is real.

Dudes are indoctrinated by feminism. Women are bombed with girl power. It's operation evil on STERIODS. The vast majority of crap is useless as is mainstream.

I looked for a solution to the problem of the abyss. Being red pill or black pill, knowing female nature as it is, and circumvent what is? Personally, I don't see the value of ltr unless a dude is having a family. It seems to be a game of catch and release.

The only thing that seems to matter is LEGACY. whatever that is for a man. Gyow and monk mode has a place and point if you want to build that.

I am seeking to bridge that gap. Legacy seems to be the solution. Women seem to be the obstacle to that target until proven otherwise. To be blunt, in my life, I can count on one hand the amount of awesomeness women I met. This coming from a lad that advices chain gun pickup. Pull or next. Never met a woman I'd marry. Never loved a woman I loved more than myself lol.

@Pandora mate, good luck on your journey. Embrace solitude. We're non normy conformys.
 

Epimanes

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 15, 2012
Messages
1,276
Reaction score
613
Age
45
I keep reading "unconditional love"...... the fact is.. love is conditional..has to be. You wouldnt love someone if they shyt in your pillow case every day... or if they continusly cheated on you but said sorry every time or kicked you in the face when they felt like it.... love is conditional... has to be... otherwise you just get abused. Period.
 
Top