Lexie
Don Juan
Well, aren't you glad you posted then? Now it's 7 pages.Don Juanabbe said:Yes, you are.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Well, aren't you glad you posted then? Now it's 7 pages.Don Juanabbe said:Yes, you are.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Lexie said:Thanks for the welcome!
I do think that a lot of barriers are subconscious. Women don't sit around and talk about the test they threw out at this guy who tried to hit on them earlier, and somehow if it was something that was planned I'm pretty sure they would. Most of these barriers could probably be seen as some sort of defense mechanism, or a selection method to weed out males that don't pass, and, believe it or not, some of them are actually flirting. If you can keep your composure long enough for her to feel like you're an ok guy, she'll put down the barriers and you should be able to have a normal conversation. On the other hand, if you get rattled pretty easily, she may think you're not worth the trouble. So yeah, I guess that does sort of go along with your theory.
PhatE1vis said:LL - what did he call you on and how did he do it so it made you laugh? Give specifics, maybe we can all learn something.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I think a lot of rather inflammatory, offensive statements guys make are actually accurate; they're just too blunt. They need to be rephrased in a kinder, more restrained way, to suit your feminine sensibilities. Like, instead of "attention hore," you're a lady who takes great joy in answering many, many questions on behalf of the female gender. :yes:Lexie said:You post the inflammatory response and I'm the "attention hor"? Please.
Before we start another "Us against Them" rant, why not challenge the specific things that you don't agree with instead of just blaming an entire gender. We challenge one another all the time (or maybe it's just me, eh...Statix said:I think Lexie proves, once again, that we should never, ever take advice from a woman on women (or at least how to get women).
Just read through the entire thread. Other guys have done a better job pointing out fallacies in her responses than I could, (or have the energy to, at least).Francisco d'Anconia said:Before we start another "Us against Them" rant, why not challenge the specific things that you don't agree with instead of just blaming an entire gender. We challenge one another all the time (or maybe it's just me, eh...), so why not challenge the specifics?
Yeah, I know it takes a lot of effort. But I think that it would be beneficial to post if you have something that wasn't mentioned earlier or if you just want to comment on it. I'm not against women posting as long as we can keep them honest..Statix said:Just read through the entire thread. Other guys have done a better job pointing out fallacies in her responses than I could, (or have the energy to, at least).![]()
I like his response - pretty funny. So, did you mean it as a test? How would you have felt if he agreed to let you pick up lunch instead?LovelyLady said:He plays hockey and asked me to lunch and ice skating.
I said "Ice skating sounds like a blast, but I'll spring for the lunch okay?"
He said "No."
I was surprised and asked "No?"
He said "No. And if you keep doing all your little tests, I'm going to have to bend you over my knee and give you a spanking." !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am now thinking that if we are looking at all this through the lens of a test, then I guess his response was a test for me too, huh?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Don Juanabbe said:At least make it worthwhile and post some pics of your tits.
DELILAH said:I agree. Which is why I joined too.
I did not intend it as a pass/fail test outright/consciously, but I did find out (gathered the information) that he is traditional. Mind you, I speak only for myself, but I feel like when a man agrees to let me pay, it puts me on equal footing with him. It feels more like a friendship/business thing, which is okay, but is not the same as having the man be the Man, if that makes sense.PhatE1vis said:I like his response - pretty funny. So, did you mean it as a test? How would you have felt if he agreed to let you pick up lunch instead?
BenPW-DJNewbie said:Right, firstly, I find it bloody hilarious, the type of questions you guys are asking. Any question you could ask a woman, and it's about towels and s**t. LMAO.
Anyway, I guess my questions are:
Do you, as a woman, believe it is possible to get out of the LJBF zone, because every girl I tell them I like them, they see me as a friend. So, I'm wondering, if there is, what it is?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
The Loacker said:So it was a test. Heh, I find it interesting how women do this subconsciously, yet you are so aware of the point of it. You won't call it a "test", but basically if he had agreed to let you pay, you wouldn't have seen him as a romantic interest.
Wow. That is a powerful question. Let me reflect and get back to you... I am also curious what the other women have to share on this. I want to know how old Lexie is - I am wondering if our "tests" are different because of our age difference.The Loacker said:Alright, let me ask you this then: what do you see as dealbreakers, other than pussification (read: indecisiveness, clinginess)? It doesn't have to be one characteristic that's a dealbreaker in and of itself, but that when combined with others would really turn you off.
It's refreshing to hear that a woman couldn't rattle of a list of "don't wants" or deal breakers right off the top of her head. So many women focus on what they don't want that they seldom can say what they really want beyond the same old dried out cliches.LovelyLady said:Wow. That is a powerful question. Let me reflect and get back to you... I am also curious what the other women have to share on this. I want to know how old Lexie is - I am wondering if our "tests" are different because of our age difference.
It's because they don't know or can't admit what they want. They go in with veggies and rice on the list and walk out with candy and soda in the shopping cart.Francisco d'Anconia said:.... they seldom can say what they really want .....
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.