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Woman who play hard to get

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Have you guys ever had a girl who played hard to get and seem to go overboard with it? I know sometimes its just not having interest or for other good reasons, but thats not the point here though.

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I know sometimes its just not having interest

but thats not the point here though.
But that's literally always the point. Women generally will not play 'hard to get' with a man they are interested in. They will not want to risk losing a man over silly games like that.

Playing hard to get should almost always be an automatic disqualification unless she's like a 9+.
 
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But that's literally always the point. Women generally will not play 'hard to get' with a they are interested in. They will not want to risk losing a man over silly games like that.

Playing hard to get should almost always be an automatic disqualification unless she's like a 9+.
I get what you mean, but I personally witnessed woman playing silly games with these men but also with me, because the type of men didn't pursue them or show interest in them and they in return pulled these silly games to get the guy, like look how desirable im how dare you! There were many cases though..
 

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I get what you mean, but I personally witnessed woman playing silly games with these men but also with me, because the type of men didn't pursue them or show interest in them and they in return pulled these silly games to get the guy, like look how desirable im how dare you! There were many cases though..
They may do it because their single hoe friends encouraged them to. Or maybe they learned it from a brainrot Tiktok video. Or they may do it to artificially try to raise their SMV because their eggs are drying up. Or they just enjoy the validation from wasting men's time. In any case it doesn't matter, it's retarded behavior that should warrant a disqualification.
 

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They may do it because their single hoe friends encouraged them to. Or maybe they learned it from a brainrot Tiktok video. Or they may do it to artificially try to raise their SMV because their eggs are drying up. Or they just enjoy the validation from wasting men's time. In any case it doesn't matter, it's retarded behavior that should warrant a disqualification.
Yeah I agree with all that, Im not denying anything, but Im not looking for advice though. Just a Story from People here who have been in that situation, what you did, how it ended and all that around. That was actually the purpose of my thread
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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They may do it because their single hoe friends encouraged them to. Or maybe they learned it from a brainless Tiktok video. Or they may do it to artificially try to raise their SMV because their eggs are drying up. Or they just enjoy the validation from wasting men's time. In any case, it doesn't matter; it's retarded behavior that should warrant disqualification.
You're saying that if a man doesn't respond to a woman's flirting and she continues, then she's not interested.

Well, there are two options:
1) If you show interest and she reciprocates, then yes.
2) If you show interest and she rejects you, then no.

What I'm getting at is that we men sometimes lose a lot of hints... Really a lot... At that point, women will get fed up.
 

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You're saying that if a man doesn't respond to a woman's flirting and she continues, then she's not interested.

Well, there are two options:
1) If you show interest and she reciprocates, then yes.
2) If you show interest and she rejects you, then no.

What I'm getting at is that we men sometimes lose a lot of hints... Really a lot... At that point, women will get fed up.
You're missing option 3: you show interest and she reciprocates one time, then doesn't reciprocate the next time

Even better than being able to pick up hints is being able to pick up when they're bullsh1tting. Congruence or gtfo.

edit - there' s also option 4 where she deliberately reciprocates in small doses. That's another form of bs the savvy seducer needs to be aware of. Option 4 may be congruent but it's also bullsh1t (breadcrumbing)
 

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You're missing option 3: you show interest and she reciprocates one time, then doesn't reciprocate the next time

Even better than being able to pick up hints is being able to pick up when they're bullsh1tting. Congruence or gtfo.

edit - there' s also option 4 where she deliberately reciprocates in small doses. That's another form of bs the savvy seducer needs to be aware of. Option 4 may be congruent but it's also bullsh1t (breadcrumbing)
Well in that case, its not even guaranteed they are interested and all you can do is keep pursuing until she leaves you in the dark, thats from my experience, despite advanced game, preselection and social proof. Woman use ambiguity to extract whatever they want whether it is attention or validation and so on and keep in mind flirting is and can be ambiguous which in itself is showing interest to some degree.

I think passing **** tests its where you still remain in power even if she isn't interested at all and leaves you in the dark, what do you think overall?
 
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Women that play hard to get with me are not easy to want. Women wouldn't play hard to get with some guy in the NBA, they know losing them could be really painful.
 

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A lack of response likely means you are not the man that she is aiming for or feels entitled to. Or if you approach with apparent oneitis, she may notice that you have no other options, are lower status, or are generally not enough to suggest a scarcity of.

If she doesn't get the tingles around you but may 'like' you, she may have labelled you a beta back up or orbiter worth keeping around, at least for attention if nothing else, at which point she may give you what many confused men called 'mixed messages.' Do not mistake them for serious signs of interest and definitely cut back the amount of attention you give her.

She also may be undecided about you and may sh!t test you or provoke you into revealing deep details about yourself, only to then slap an unflattering label onto you. Don't make the mistake of trying to win her over by telling her your life story or being to eager to ruin your mystique.

She could also just be BPD; expect a rollercoaster ride in hell if you are foolish enough to buy a ticket...
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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Because they aren't afraid of you having other options or don't think you do. If they did they wouldn't do that and risk losing you to one of those other options.
 

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Women that play hard to get with me are not easy to want. Women wouldn't play hard to get with some guy in the NBA, they know losing them could be really painful.
Believe it or not, I actually know a famous football player you’d recognize from live TV, handsome, charming, knows his stuff, but even he has women playing hard to get. I’ve even seen some of them flirt with other guys to signal higher desirability. In their minds, if they’re “too easy” like the simps that quickly give in, it might scare a certain guy off or makes them look low value and easy to get.

But that wasn't the point at all for this thread, guys read carefully.

I f.e had one woman, who played hard to get in the past and whose friend actually witnessed that she was crushing on me right in front of her, she started blushing hard and got nervous and also mad that her female friend revealed it.
 
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i don't know about this one. i see shy girls (hard to get). i see no experience girls (hard to get). i see girls in groups showing off to friends (hard to get). never see a girl that wants the boy being hard to get as strategy. i understand the idea, just never see it. i do see lots of guys rejected that tell about hard to get.

i think the opinions on this topic will follow the general smv of the men.
 

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Women in the dating market usually fall into two basic groups: those who like a specific man from the get-go, and those who don’t.

For women in the first group, you simply need to pick up on their buying signals and give them big doses of being yourself. Unless you have anti-seductive behaviors or major turn-offs, you should succeed fairly easily with this group. The main goal here is not to derail the train.

Women in the second group are much more challenging, because there is usually a boyfriend, a husband, another man they are “talking to”, or responsibilities lurking in the background. The only effective way to deal with these women is to become an attractor, not an aggressor, while showing absolutely no romantic interest until their interest level rises and they begin giving buying signals first. If you show romantic interest too soon, you’ll blow it. If your interest level gets too high too fast, they’ll sense it, and you’re dead meat.

The reality is that women in this second group should be approached with low expectations, because the success rate is much lower than with the first group. This is likely why, even though you asked for examples, few people can provide any. Most of these “long-game” situations happen unconsciously, meaning the man knows the woman but is unaware of her interest developing in the background, until something finally clicks for her.
 
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Most start to play games when you reveal your interest too quickly

its like " oh I didn't have to do much to get him interested" lets see what else I can get away with

I was never much into " catch me if you can" games - I would often get bored too quickly and move on

Did have one or two chicks later ask why I didn't pursue them more , but ah well that ship has sailed haha
 

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If she plays hard to get she doesnt want to be "got". A women will never be stingy with her time if she really likes you.
 

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just show with another woman, and if she is really playing "hard to get" she will drop the act pretty fast, if not she was not playing hard to get, its you who read wrong
 

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Have you guys ever had a girl who played hard to get and seem to go overboard with it? I know sometimes its just not having interest or for other good reasons, but thats not the point here though.

Let me hear your Stories
Low interest.

Women don't play hard to get on guys they view as high interest.

Think of it this way; when a woman is on a job interview, will she play hard to get with her potential employer?

Or will she be humble, subservient, and on her P's and Q's during the process.

That's the way you have to look at it.

I'm telling you; once you've dealt with a woman (women) who views you as a high value/interest, you'll never want to deal with low interest women again.

You'll never go back.
 

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Have you guys ever had a girl who played hard to get and seem to go overboard with it? I know sometimes its just not having interest or for other good reasons, but thats not the point here though.

Let me hear your Stories
This might have been true back in the 90s when the book "The Rules" came out. Not so much anymore... unless you are dating woman in middle-age. But even then, it just means she isn't sure about you. For most of you younger guys trying to dating women your age it's different. Younger women now don't really think that their actions will have long term consequences. They feel like they can my relationship mistakes. If they like you, they will 'go for it', she'll open the door and if you don't walk though it, or it doesn't work out... no problem... hop on a dating app and she'll be fine.

Just take the opportunities that present, and if she is making things difficult, move on. If a man starts trying to figure out what is going on with her behavior, you are already playing her game, by her rules, and you will likely lose.
 
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