"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Woman turns down drinks idea, prefers coffee

mr. kennedy

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Long story short, grabbed the digits from a HB9 a few days ago at a happy hour event. We spoke for a good 20-30 minutes while my friend distracted her friend.

Texted her this evening to meet up for drinks tomorrow and she responded by saying she has a really long day tomorrow but we could meet up for coffee but not drinks afterwards around 9 PM. I know she drinks because when I initially met her she had a drink in her hand.

Is the coffee suggestion basically telling me she wants no escalation or am I reading too much into this?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Fireballs

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It's such a turn off when girls do this. It's up to you but I wouldn't play into her frame..
 

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To me coffee implies a short date. Usually an hour tops. With drinks as you can imagine it can go on for hours.

I make the distinction with women I meet. Ones I'm feeling out to see if we click I invite for coffee in the day. If I liked her immediately on meeting I invite for drinks or dinner.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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She wouldn't go for anything if she didn't leave a chance for something to happen. Some girls just don't like dates with alcohol, things move too fast. She'll probably feel more comfortable with a coffee and not have to deal with a guy pushing on her for sex, while also having less self-control because of alcohol.

To many women who's not looking for just sex, going for drinks with a guy they just met is a dumb idea. We all know how that is supposed to go down and only some want it. The coffee is shorter too and they can leave early if they don't feel it's right, so just be cool and casual. If she stays after drinking her coffee for a while you're doing it right.
 

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Ok so do a coffee date, keep it shortish, shut it down early after you hang out a little while & take the opportunity to get to know her. You can build rapport & do kino at a coffee place - or go somewhere you can grab coffee & then go for a walk together.

The purpose of any sort of date is to enjoy yourself & the other person...and see if they warrant another date.

So keep it light, go hang out & see if you find her worth any additional time.
 

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Long story short, grabbed the digits from a HB9 a few days ago at a happy hour event. We spoke for a good 20-30 minutes while my friend distracted her friend.

Texted her this evening to meet up for drinks tomorrow and she responded by saying she has a really long day tomorrow but we could meet up for coffee but not drinks afterwards around 9 PM. I know she drinks because when I initially met her she had a drink in her hand.

Is the coffee suggestion basically telling me she wants no escalation or am I reading too much into this?
You talked to a HB9 for 30 minutes at a happy hour event while your friend distracted her friend, and you didn't ask her out on a date? What were you talking to her about the entire time, the weather?

You were isolated, you were alone, she was flirting with you, you should have asked her out RIGHT THERE. Now 2 days later you been demoted from a guy who she could likely sleep with to a guy to a friend who she has coffee with.

Brutal.
 

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She said Yes

But she's not dtf

1 thing to do : You pick the best coffee place, you make her wanna see you again (for a date)
 

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I have screwed quite a few women on first date coffee dates.

Sit next to them apply kino and game as usual. Ask them over to see your pet, TV or whatever. Give them plausible deniability.

If it dosent work there is always a second date if you want.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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RangerMIke

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Tell her she can drink whatever she wants, then name a place/time that serves coffee. But you need to have a drink, because otherwise you will lose your frame. You asked her out for drinks, you're drinking. She can do whatever she wants.
 

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I suspect she doesn't want to drink alcohol because she has low impulse control and it got her into past situations she regretted! ;-) Go to a place that has alcohol and coffee. You drink what you want, don't let a girl manipulate the situation for her best interest.
 
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