She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I'm betting $10 this ends up involving organ theft.juan95 said:Related: $10 says she's psycho. Takers?
+1Alle_Gory said:I'm betting $10 this ends up involving organ theft.![]()
Alle_Gory said:I'm betting $10 this ends up involving organ theft.![]()
blackwolf said:i know.. she told me she works in a lab, like some kind of scientist
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Rollo Tomassi said:I really hate to be the bucket of cold water on such an entertaining thread, but the OP's original forum name is chance.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/search.php?searchid=1626851
The reason this is significant is because his threads read like an encyclopedia for the dispossessed frustrated chump. Try not to take that as a flame, but understand that assuming your whole story isn't some grand illusion to occupy your otherwise boring life of digital Buffers, your only reason for taking this situation to the level it's gotten to is because you are so hopelessly, socially, inept that experiencing women IRL is frightening for you. This seems like a good idea because you have no better options, and haven't had any for a very long time.
Under a different monicker, you've been a member of this forum since 2004; you already know what the members here are going to advise about this. So there are really two justifications for you starting this thread:
1. You have no other other options where you're at and you're fearful of any real life contact, so flirting with a woman (assuming here) behind the firewall of an IM, email, or even video chat provides you with a sense of insulation against rejection. Everything in your past thread history indicates this. This is why an aging Asian virgin is not only a viable option for you, but preferable to making actual approaches in the real world.
2. You're trolling. You know damn well what the community here will advise, but since it's more entertaining to string us along with the fantastic you'll play along. It's even more fun when like-minded "forever alone" chumps such as yourself buy into the fantasy, back you up and tell you not to listen to the pessimist naysayers and go for it. I'll admit it does make for a humorous thread (kidneynapping LMAO).
Just for the record; why would you need a visa to travel to the U.S. to take what basically amounts to a vacation? Are you planning on working or staying here for an extended period?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCacbNlrqYk
Enjoy.
The OP has been pwned. Good Night folks.Rollo Tomassi said:I really hate to be the bucket of cold water on such an entertaining thread, but the OP's original forum name is chance.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/search.php?searchid=1626851
The reason this is significant is because his threads read like an encyclopedia for the dispossessed frustrated chump. Try not to take that as a flame, but understand that assuming your whole story isn't some grand illusion to occupy your otherwise boring life of digital Buffers, your only reason for taking this situation to the level it's gotten to is because you are so hopelessly, socially, inept that experiencing women IRL is frightening for you. This seems like a good idea because you have no better options, and haven't had any for a very long time.
Under a different monicker, you've been a member of this forum since 2004; you already know what the members here are going to advise about this. So there are really two justifications for you starting this thread:
1. You have no other other options where you're at and you're fearful of any real life contact, so flirting with a woman (assuming here) behind the firewall of an IM, email, or even video chat provides you with a sense of insulation against rejection. Everything in your past thread history indicates this. This is why an aging Asian virgin is not only a viable option for you, but preferable to making actual approaches in the real world.
2. You're trolling. You know damn well what the community here will advise, but since it's more entertaining to string us along with the fantastic you'll play along. It's even more fun when like-minded "forever alone" chumps such as yourself buy into the fantasy, back you up and tell you not to listen to the pessimist naysayers and go for it. I'll admit it does make for a humorous thread (kidneynapping LMAO).
Just for the record; why would you need a visa to travel to the U.S. to take what basically amounts to a vacation? Are you planning on working or staying here for an extended period?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCacbNlrqYk
Enjoy.
Rollo Tomassi said:I really hate to be the bucket of cold water on such an entertaining thread, but the OP's original forum name is chance.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/search.php?searchid=1626851
The reason this is significant is because his threads read like an encyclopedia for the dispossessed frustrated chump. Try not to take that as a flame, but understand that assuming your whole story isn't some grand illusion to occupy your otherwise boring life of digital Buffers, your only reason for taking this situation to the level it's gotten to is because you are so hopelessly, socially, inept that experiencing women IRL is frightening for you. This seems like a good idea because you have no better options, and haven't had any for a very long time.
Under a different monicker, you've been a member of this forum since 2004; you already know what the members here are going to advise about this. So there are really two justifications for you starting this thread:
1. You have no other other options where you're at and you're fearful of any real life contact, so flirting with a woman (assuming here) behind the firewall of an IM, email, or even video chat provides you with a sense of insulation against rejection. Everything in your past thread history indicates this. This is why an aging Asian virgin is not only a viable option for you, but preferable to making actual approaches in the real world.
2. You're trolling. You know damn well what the community here will advise, but since it's more entertaining to string us along with the fantastic you'll play along. It's even more fun when like-minded "forever alone" chumps such as yourself buy into the fantasy, back you up and tell you not to listen to the pessimist naysayers and go for it. I'll admit it does make for a humorous thread (kidneynapping LMAO).
Just for the record; why would you need a visa to travel to the U.S. to take what basically amounts to a vacation? Are you planning on working or staying here for an extended period?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCacbNlrqYk
Enjoy.
Shut up you fuvking fag. Nobody cares about your opinions. The only fantasy here is that you are a two week old monkey boy who thinks he knows anything about people. Shut the fuvk up and get a life. Stupid homosexual men who pose as straight men cannot and will not have a place in these forums.ELMER_GANTRY said:Great post Rollo, couldn't have said it any better myself. I knew this
was fake, just like that student/teacher one I found. It was just funny to read the continuous fantasy saga going on.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Throughout the whole thread, this was the only thing going over and over through my mind.Warrior74 said:Lot of scared dudes in this thread.
I wish some chic would offer to fly me away and pay for all of my stuff. I'd be there in a heartbeat, and if she started tripping and acting crazy, I'd just be catch the next flight back, because my ticket will be round trip.
Also I would come back with some fresh new gear and new toys. Sugar mama for the win.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.