GotED?
Master Don Juan
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Simple start, simple result:
You spoiled her - irreversible. Next.
You spoiled her - irreversible. Next.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
DonJuanabe said:Been dating this chick for couple months. She complains she has no money yet buys clothes for herself fairly often (at discount), is taking a trip soon that will cost some $2,000, and pays for yoga etc. I don't mind paying more than she does since I know I make more than her, but at this point she needs to start paying something. I'm giving her until the end of the year since she goes on her vacation soon after - if she doesn't fork over something for a movie, or offer to pay the tip at dinner, I'm ending it with her. If this is a you pay for me I give you sex thing I'm done with it. I think my strategy will be, when we go see a movie, to simply suggest she pay for the tix. I'll know my answer immediately.
I don't, I think he's a clown whose fear and loathing of women will cause perpetual celibacy for himself.The Gambler said:Hahahaha.... I LOVE Burroughs..... I hate to admit it. But I do.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
The sad part is that this is entirely and realistically possible these days. Anyway I'm over it, the guy's on my ignore list. He doesn't bother me personally, I just hope no young guy actually listens to him. THAT would bother me because it would really short-circuit a young mind.I wouldn't be surprised to see Burroughs in the news after having stormed a few Yoga classes with an AK-47.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
DonJuanabe said:She isn't high maintenance, and sure 30-40 bucks for dinner or 50 for movie tix and pizza isn't a huge amount of money, and I believe wholeheartedly that since I make more than she does I should pay more than she does, but a woman should pay every once in a while, or pay the tip, or get the tix while you get dinner, something. At the least it says I am contributing too.
I am merely acknowledging reality - it takes time to get to know someone and I've learned that she is selfish. That's not a quality I look for in a woman so unless she changes in the next 2-3 weeks I'm done.
Why are these things linked as if they come in groups where you either get all the things or none of the things?Boilermaker said:I think women are allowed to not pay 1/2 the time.
If we criticize them for defending feminist rights and we are wanting them to be feminine and submissive, and affectionate; we have to give them to right to demand to be taken care of by their men financially.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I'm guessing that OP paid for everything up front in the beginning to impress the lady.Mauser96 said:Ok, this piqued my interest. Not to hijack the thread, but if this isn't much? Why doesn't she pay 1/2 of the time?
She has money for clothes, boots, vacations for herself. Why not pay her own way on dates, or at least offer to pay?
The AMOUNT being spent has nothjing to do with the fact SHE SPENDS NOTHING AND EXPECTS A FREE RIDE.
Okay, if that's how you feel then you're with an incompatible woman. What are you gonna do?DonJuanabe said:...and I believe wholeheartedly that since I make more than she does I should pay more than she does, but a woman should pay every once in a while, or pay the tip, or get the tix while you get dinner, something. At the least it says I am contributing too.
Personally, I don't think she will...I am merely acknowledging reality - it takes time to get to know someone and I've learned that she is selfish. That's not a quality I look for in a woman so unless she changes in the next 2-3 weeks I'm done.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.