"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Woman busy at night, wants to meet for lunch/afternoon...

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Met this woman, seems really interested, told me she liked my confidence, etc...

Texted her I wanted to get together with her next week sometime and asked what days she would be free to do that.

She responded she was busy during the evenings next week, but could meet during the afternoon any day other than Monday...

Have never met for an afternoon date before, is there a different set of rules to play by? Escalation likely more difficult but I've also read some guys like afternoon dates because if you do escalate its unexpected and can work better than at night when their guard might be up more...

Opinions welcome, or should I wait and push for a evening meet up?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I fail to see the problem here?!
 

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No.Danny said:
I fail to see the problem here?!
Lol, no problem, moreso wondering if there are different sets of rules to go by for afternoon versus evening meet ups
 

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Rules?
Ha...... .
Is this what this community has become?
 

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Women have lunch with their girlfriends after a day of shopping.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Just go with the flow.
 

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The day is a lot less "romantic."

Its an interesting effect the darker environment has on people but the point is its easier to get a little flirty and "loosen up" in darker areas, and I know this from experience my night game is astounding. Why do you think everywhere "romantic" takes place or is perceived taking place at night? Robert is right, you could be with your friends shopping or something else during the day. But if she's really interested, like you say, then it doesn't matter. Just know it may be a little harder depending on her interest level and the type of game you have and are both comfortable with. With that being said afternoon dates are typically more casual, which the issues above happen so just be flirty and playful(and use kino when necessary!) and you should be fine.

Or this could be a test... Letting her decide time of day etc... I would ignore that and set up a day date though, she could actually be busy. But if you know for a fact she isn't busy then keep asking for night dates and if she declines go ghost and see other girls and repeat until she realizes you aren't moving with her lame idea.

Just don't do morning dates...
 

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Ha, you do not need drugs or alcohol for a date. I just took my date out to the river a few days ago around 2pm and we had a great time!

ACTION DATES kid! Mini-Golf, Dancing, Local Events, Museums, Fishing, Target Shooting..
 

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Frayzer said:
The day is a lot less "romantic."

Its an interesting effect the darker environment has on people but the point is its easier to get a little flirty and "loosen up" in darker areas, and I know this from experience my night game is astounding. Why do you think everywhere "romantic" takes place or is perceived taking place at night? Robert is right, you could be with your friends shopping or something else during the day. But if she's really interested, like you say, then it doesn't matter. Just know it may be a little harder depending on her interest level and the type of game you have and are both comfortable with. With that being said afternoon dates are typically more casual, which the issues above happen so just be flirty and playful(and use kino when necessary!) and you should be fine.

Or this could be a test... Letting her decide time of day etc... I would ignore that and set up a day date though, she could actually be busy. But if you know for a fact she isn't busy then keep asking for night dates and if she declines go ghost and see other girls and repeat until she realizes you aren't moving with her lame idea.

Just don't do morning dates...
I know she is probably busy...she is a real estate agent and owns her own business on top of that
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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