Woke Plates w/Strong Frames

[RazorRambo24]

Women are smart.. She'll get it when you don't do much else besides strictly have sex with her.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Im in grad school rn in nyc and I cant really seem to find any girls my age group here ora bit younger that share the same values as I do.I currently have 3 plates atm and the 19 yr old blond one(the hottest) has been shiit testing me like crazy recently. She is feminist woke all the works and I dont really care when Im ****ing them but hearing them outside
them outside of sex I feel like drilling a hole in my head lolol. The sex
is great and I feel like I should just compromise for peace.Its not bothering debating them.Is it even worth it to keep frame in terms of traditional values. ??How do you guys usually handle the girls lecturing about (1) toxic masculinity (2) wage gap (4) gender madness?I dont want to debate them. I can outsmart a wmn any day but I dont want the headache of dealing w/this nonsense.I feel like its not worth it.

Ask her what she thinks about pedophilia and casually mention how the "woke pushers are pedos, you didn't know that?" And then change the subject. The implication here is that she's behind the curve and she'll have unpopular views soon if she doesn't get with the program.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Women are smart..

Woke women, less so.

 

[FlirtLife]

You're just noticing this now?

I noticed it during my long years months days since joining, but usually I'm too late.

 

[pranshu]

The OP claims to be a conservative/ right winger by saying he has values, morals, and whatnot..I do so too.. I despise that woke, holier than thou, hypocritic leftist liberal ideology..but BUT..

Aren't we compromising those values by having sex outside of marriage?? sexual liberalization is a part of the liberal/leftist movement and we sure as hell are enjoying it...This is hypocritic on the conservative's part IMO..Before the sexual liberalization, you couldn't have sex before and/or outside of marriage( with some exceptions of prostitutes )..It meant a huge responsibility for both men and women when women married at an earlier age and according to their father's choice..

 

[pranshu]

jmo but ANY female(s) in these kinda sites shouldnt be let in.no matter how "well intentioned" they might claim to be.let men be men.we need our own space.

Agreed but How would we even verify if someone's really a man?

 

[shwami_salami]

Agreed but How would we even verify if someone's really a man?

call/chat.outside the forum that is lol

to answer ur other question no bcs men r wired to sleep around.In ancient religions men were assigned multiple wives

 

[SW15]

The sexis great and I feel like I should just compromise for peace.Its not bothering debating them. Is it even worth it to keep frame in terms of traditional values. ??How do you guys usually handle the girls lecturing about (1) toxic masculinity (2) wage gap (4) gender madness?I dont want to debate them. I can outsmart a wmn any day but I dont want the headache of dealing w/this nonsense.I feel like its not worth it.

Do not discuss. Keep piping her. Keep her in the “sex only” category. Simply find a more traditional woman when you are ready to settle down.

Try your best not to discuss political and cultural topics with women.

I think another effort that's worth making for certain men is not to date/plate the most extreme woke liberals. In general, women possess more liberal political and cultural ideologies than men. Single, never married women under menopausal age are more prone to possess liberal ideologies. Female ideologies tend to go more towards moderate and conservative once they are married and especially when they are married with children. There are women who don't feel the need to talk all the time about their liberal viewpoints. Also, there are more ideologically moderate to conservative women. The more moderate to conservative women in terms of their political ideologies are often better girlfriends.

In 2013, Roosh wrote an article "Do Not Have Sex with Feminists"

Do Not Have Sex With Feminists

I had sex with a woman that I know had a leftist orientation and the sex was very good. Things fizzled out.

Men with more moderate to conservative cultural and political viewpoints are prone to having more challenges in dating women. There is going to be more natural friction in this arrangement.

It does come down to Iron Rule of Tomassi #1.

Iron Rule of Tomassi #1

Frame is everything. Always be aware of the subconscious balance of whose frame in which you are operating. Always control the Frame, but resist giving the impression that you are.

It's possible to have a relationship with a left leaning woman if your frame is strong enough. However, the frame wars and managing that relationship is going to be more emotionally exhausting for a man who leans more conservative. That's why selecting a more moderate to conservative woman is going to be easier.

 

[HaleyBaron]

The OP claims to be a conservative/ right winger by saying he has values, morals, and whatnot..I do so too.. I despise that woke, holier than thou, hypocritic leftist liberal ideology..but BUT..

Aren't we compromising those values by having sex outside of marriage?? sexual liberalization is a part of the liberal/leftist movement and we sure as hell are enjoying it...This is hypocritic on the conservative's part IMO..Before the sexual liberalization, you couldn't have sex before and/or outside of marriage( with some exceptions of prostitutes )..It meant a huge responsibility for both men and women when women married at an earlier age and according to their father's choice..

What made you think men are suppose to be conservative? Men don't play politics. We build empire, businesses, and families. Politics is just a place for women and frilly men to participate in who have no lives or skill to make a mark in life. There is nothing hypocritical of having sex outside of marriage. Marriage is a social created thing. No other animal gets "married." They may be together for life, but there is no ceremony to it. The males even still **** other females cause he wants to spread his seed. Marriage just exists for two things:

• The woman gets her special day of attention and will forever milk that she is married to others.
• The man gets to brag that he owns a woman now and that he is faithful to a wife.

You can excuse the woman cause that is what women do but the man's reason smells of insecurity and childishness.

There is nothing masculine about marriage.

 

[threeforfree]

"You're a feminist? That's so cute!"

"I think it's adorable when you have opinions."

 

[The Duke]

I get pump and dump once or twice when you barely know somebody. But to keep dating someone you can't even stand, just so you can score some pu$$y tells me your frame isn't very strong. It says you are willing to disregard your standards for a woman. It tells me you can't control your sexual emotions. Stop validating these types, all you do is perpetuate the sickness.

 

[The Duke]

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I called her an attention lover(<---that wasn't the exact term I used, but @Billtx49 slapped my hand and threatened to boot me). Careful, he will be onto you next. He's very protective of her. Kind of weird.

 

[shwami_salami]

hypothetically speaking if my wife were to go on a site like sosuav nd talk to other guys i'd feel cukked.I also dont trust that person, not at all, after hearing another side of the story.

back to the girl shes just a plate and nothing srs so I'll just treat her like so @threeforfree.I'll use ur lines that u suggested for sure lol

 

[SW15]

hypothetically speaking if my wife were to go on a site like sosuav nd talk to other guys i'd feel cukked.I also dont trust that person, not at all, after hearing another side of the story.

back to the girl shes just a plate and nothing srs so I'll just treat her like so @threeforfree.I'll use ur lines that u suggested for sure lol

Women generally do not post on SoSuave. There have been 2 main ones who I have while I've been here and an occasional one pops up for a few weeks.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I am sure some float around as lurkers but I think our attitude keeps them at bay. Unlike on twitter and other female sites, they don't have downvotes or army of simps or feminists to protect them.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Im in grad school rn in nyc and I cant really seem to find any girls my age group here ora bit younger that share the same values as I do.I currently have 3 plates atm and the 19 yr old blond one(the hottest) has been shiit testing me like crazy recently. She is feminist woke all the works and I dont really care when Im ****ing them but hearing them outside
them outside of sex I feel like drilling a hole in my head lolol. The sex
is great and I feel like I should just compromise for peace.Its not bothering debating them.Is it even worth it to keep frame in terms of traditional values. ??How do you guys usually handle the girls lecturing about (1) toxic masculinity (2) wage gap (4) gender madness?I dont want to debate them. I can outsmart a wmn any day but I dont want the headache of dealing w/this nonsense.I feel like its not worth it.

No amount of sex, even if great is worth your mental peace and masculine energy.

With that said, I only engage in those topics unless I fully trust the girl and have a clear understanding that she is emotionally and intellectually mature. Meaning, can she hold such a conversation in an open matter with no agenda to elevate her ego, hold moral grandstanding, and put others down. And that is rare, so I stick to the usual conversations for the most part.

If she insists, then you have two options:

1) Protect your mental peace and walk away
2) Let her word vomit on you if you are able to let those words bounce off of you and not let it get to you

 

[shwami_salami]

thanks for all the suggestions guys.Yea whats funny is that she pressures me to upgrade her from plate/situationship status to gf. "shawn, ilu but all we do is feckk, I feel so used." lolol gerlll. no way.shes free to leave anytime then. she told me abt her abusive relationship when she was 17 nd how her ex ruined her. yet she stayed for MONTHS.
so I keep my frame now by hate fecking her (solid hb8.75/9) nd just acting like shes a child whenever she brings up these topics. I know I should find a more compatible plate but shes smoking.Its hard cos whenever we argue nd I apply silence she blows up my phone after a couple days wnting to feck.hard to turn her down I wish she was plainer looking.then it would b easier to leave.

 

[FlirtLife]

Aren't we compromising those values by having sex outside of marriage??

"Don Juan" in the forum name refers to a legendary seducer. If you believe in no adultery or sex before marriage, and you're on a forum about seduction, I'd say that's on you.

Don Juan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I called her an attention lover(<---that wasn't the exact term I used, but @Billtx49 slapped my hand and threatened to boot me). Careful, he will be onto you next. He's very protective of her. Kind of weird.

I appreciate the risk you took in saying that, so thank you. I saw a poster blatantly insulting someone repeatedly (7 times in 4 posts) and suffered no consequences that I can see. It makes me wonder about the forum rule not to "insult, harass, or disrespect" other members being applied consistently. Maybe that is a topic for a separate thread - also meaning be careful if you decide to reply.

Not all women are like this, ...

... Its just hard
for me to trust any women.

If it is "hard for [you] to trust any women", and you believe "ANY female(s) in these kinda sites shouldnt be let in" [1], why did you reply back and forth with a woman in this thread?

[1]

jmo but ANY female(s) in these kinda sites shouldnt be let in.no matter how "well intentioned" they might claim to be.let men be men.we need our own space.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I called her an attention lover(<---that wasn't the exact term I used, but @Billtx49 slapped my hand and threatened to boot me). Careful, he will be onto you next. He's very protective of her. Kind of weird.

She thinks she's entitled to the attention she got from her 5 older brothers imo

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Not all women are like this, I would never (and have never) called any of my boyfriends or husband derogatory names or attempted to argue with them about political shyt or much of anything else for that matter. I wouldn't be dating him OR fvcking him if I had that much disrespect for him.

That's not to say I don't express my opinions when necessary but calling him a misogynist or an a$$hole is not something I would EVER be inclined to do.

Woke feminists have issues, and many of them are misandrists. I know you're familiar with that toxic woke feminist forum Female Dating Strategy, you've written about it on SS, so you know this already.

Take them with a grain of salt and if you enjoy fvcking them, simply ignore the rants or attempts to wind you up and enjoy.

P.S. Try to not lump all women together in one category - ALL women are like this or that.

I have experienced that and it pissed me off (and turned me off) to no end.

Every woman (and man for that matter) is different. Judge the individual, not the gender.

Should've stopped at post 666, Cats