"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Wingman who kills game

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I think i'm going to answer my own question here.

I've got a wingman who comes off as creepy, brings down the mood, and gets very upset at rejection. I think he may repel women to an extent. Is it better to fly with a wing who is lacking, or fly solo?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Fly with another wing man. I know one of these as well. He doesn't do it on purpose, he just doesn't know how to talk to women. It hurts my game. Guilty by association. Find another one, or isolate yourself and get her away from him as soon as possible.
 

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Get someone new... I'd rather go in alone than carrying dead weight, his presence WILL hurt your chances
 

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By definition he is not a wing man. He is a wing nut.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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IamJosan

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Go solo or go in a group. Groups are always fun. It's also fun if you go out with a group of women too. Wingwomen help so much! :D
 

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I also have someone like that too. He ruined sets with me already 3 times. Once I saw 3 cuties, I ask him to approach he says NO. I say OK I approach alone then I do the approach, 10 seconds later he shows up next to me and I lose my focus and I mess up.
 

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Just go and talk to him. Say "It's not you. It's me and that is why we cannot wing together anymore." Than go find a new wingman entirely :rolleyes: .

- comic_relief
 

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I figured I would have to "fire" him. Guilty by association is right! I was talking to this chick the other day and he was just standing there staring into space, gazing creepily around the bar. The girl actually commented saying, "is he ok??" :rolleyes:

Guess you have to treat wingmen like women if they're not living up to your standards..."NEXT".
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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