"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Wingman who kills game

Fumbduck

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I think i'm going to answer my own question here.

I've got a wingman who comes off as creepy, brings down the mood, and gets very upset at rejection. I think he may repel women to an extent. Is it better to fly with a wing who is lacking, or fly solo?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Falcon25

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Fly with another wing man. I know one of these as well. He doesn't do it on purpose, he just doesn't know how to talk to women. It hurts my game. Guilty by association. Find another one, or isolate yourself and get her away from him as soon as possible.
 

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Get someone new... I'd rather go in alone than carrying dead weight, his presence WILL hurt your chances
 

bigneil

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By definition he is not a wing man. He is a wing nut.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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IamJosan

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Go solo or go in a group. Groups are always fun. It's also fun if you go out with a group of women too. Wingwomen help so much! :D
 

escaleraroyal

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I also have someone like that too. He ruined sets with me already 3 times. Once I saw 3 cuties, I ask him to approach he says NO. I say OK I approach alone then I do the approach, 10 seconds later he shows up next to me and I lose my focus and I mess up.
 

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Just go and talk to him. Say "It's not you. It's me and that is why we cannot wing together anymore." Than go find a new wingman entirely :rolleyes: .

- comic_relief
 

Fumbduck

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I figured I would have to "fire" him. Guilty by association is right! I was talking to this chick the other day and he was just standing there staring into space, gazing creepily around the bar. The girl actually commented saying, "is he ok??" :rolleyes:

Guess you have to treat wingmen like women if they're not living up to your standards..."NEXT".
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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