"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Will this prevent a girl from flaking
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Dunno about everyone else but in a way I agree with this - you have to time it so it's not such short notice she's made other plans, and not too long that there's a chance of her forgetting (not that forgetting is very respectful or enthusiastic, mind. Perhaps that in itself is a good test of her interest?) or it kind of getting vague.JPlaya said:
I've found that when I've made arrangements too long in advance with women, sometimes they've flaked, not in the sense of not showing up, but something seems to "come up". Whether that's coincidence or there's something in it, I don't know. Perhaps it gives them time to go off the boil a bit?
I've usually found it most comfortable ringing them at the beginning of the week, Monday or Tuesday, with a view to meeting up Friday or Saturday. Get in there just before the mid week where all their stupid mates start booking stuff with them for the weekend.
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You don't expect her to remember a week out in advance. That's understandable and all,but what about YOU and your memory? A week is a long time.JPlaya said:
So who's going to call you to remind you about the date?
You won't have any problem remembering,will you? Because you have a high level of interest in her. I agree with what Sparky said about gauging how far out to plan a date taking the girl's interest level into consideration.
If you have no problem remembering the day and time of the date,but you feel you have to give her constant reminders of something she SHOULD BE excited about,them maybe she isn't as interested as you think.
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This was a joke,right? You don't seriously plan on telling her to wear something sexy simply because you're going to buy her something to eat,do you? :crackup:
I don't know how often you talk to this girl,but if a day or two has passed since you two last spoke,I'd call her up like 2 days before the date just to talk and flirt with her a bit.
Play a little,tease her a bit,ASK HER what she's going to be wearing FOR YOU on the date. Tell her that you expect for her to act like a lady while out on the date,and that if she gets any funny ideas about trying to get out of line or trying to do anything inappropiate when you're out together,tell her she has your FULL PERMISSION to do so
. Tell her not to wear a lot of make-up on the date because you don't want to spend the whole date wiping lip stick off your face. That'll put the thought of HER kissing you in her mind.Get those juices flowing a bit,stir up her emotions. Do that like two days BEFORE the date. Then the day of the date,you can call her up like maybe a hour or two before you're supposed to go pick her up (or meet her),and tell her that you'll be there to get her in about so and so much time.
Aren't you the same dude who made some thread about how you're never going to ask a girl out by texting again? Well how come you're against using texting to ask a girl out,but when it comes to communicating with her AFTER she says yes,you revert back to it?JPlaya said:
Texting should be used to relay quick messages,not to replace normal human interactions. If you have something short and to the point to say,then text,but if you want to vibe and connect with someone,you need to TALK to them,and vibing and connecting with a girl is IMPORTANT to maintaining a girl's high/medium to high level of interest.
There's no 100% way to insure a woman not flaking. All you can do is get her interest level as high as you can,and expect her to do the rest.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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I'll usually say something like, "Hey, don't forget to wear jeans tonight. You can't use me as a cushion if you trip on your ice skates!"
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Pretty girl asks me out on a date one week in advance you can bet I won't forget it.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
if you have booked a certain concrete specific time - then she will turn up. why, between now and then, are you obsessed with texting every day to make sure she's still going to show up? Every time you text saying "are you still coming" its a massive display or insecurity, needyness and lack of confidence
in a forum of needy overtexters, you are actually the worst one of all. if you must text her , please dont text "are you still coming" or "did you remember" or "just to remind you", if you really can't cope without a text, then text something CONCRETE instead of this vague wishy-washy "hey" crap you always text. text "ok so i'll pick you up at 6.30" - but only ONLY if you haven't already confirmed that you are going to pick her up at 6.30. if you have already agreed this, then a text is really unecessary
you are a weak, needy, fragile little creature - you should be trying to hide this from her, not confirm it with every little text
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Come on JPlaya, just DON'T text her. Apart from anything else aren't you inquisitive to see what'll happen if you don't? Imagine how it'll boost your confidence if you don't text and she still turns up?
STEP AWAY FROM THE PHONE. If only to humour us lot. Come on we've got bets on this, me and Johnny have got 4-3 on her turning up, so don't dissapoint us:trouble: (Haha J/k of course).
Listen put it this way - you want to know whether she'll turn up if you don't text her? Only one way to find that out. Don't text her. And perhaps the result may guide you as to what to do in the future. But if you DO text her, you'll never know. You won't learn anything. Apart from how to feed your insecurity.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.